What Is the Value of Point Charge q in a Square Configuration?

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The problem involves a square configuration with point charges located at its corners. Specifically, three charges of -Q, +Q, and -3Q are fixed at points P, Q, and S, while a charge q is placed at point R. The charge q experiences a net electric force directed towards point S, leading to a question about the value of q.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the cancellation of forces acting on charge q and question the determination of its value. Some suggest that any positive value for q might suffice due to fixed distances, while others explore the components of forces and their relationships through trigonometric reasoning.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the forces involved and questioning the original problem's setup. Some guidance on using trigonometry to analyze the forces has been provided, but there is no explicit consensus on the value of q.

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There are indications that the original problem may contain mistakes, as noted by participants. Additionally, the relationship between the forces and the charge q remains a point of contention, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the implications of their calculations.

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Homework Statement


PQRS is a square. Three point charges -Q, +Q and -3Q are fixed at P, Q and S respectively as shown.

A point charge q is then placed at R and it experiences a net electric force towards S. Which of the following is equal to q?

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Homework Equations


F=kq1q2/r^2

The Attempt at a Solution


in any kind of calculation, Q and q are canceled out and undetermined ,ie : (k1) (q) (Q) / (r1)^2 = (k2) (q) (Q) / (r2)^2, (turn force PR to vertical and horizontal component cancel the vertical component with force QR) . I have no idea on the question or maybe the question itself has mistakes ?The right answer is q=1/9 Q.
 
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I think any value of q (+ve) will do since the distances are fixed.
 
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cnh1995 said:
Vertical component of force PR cancels force QR. Horizontal component of force PR and force SR add up along SR and hence, the resultantant is directed towards S. All you need to do is use trigonometry to calculate the respective components, with only one unknown q. How is q undetermined?
But suppose vertical component of force PR is ##-cos(\pi/4)kQq/r_1^2## so since it is canceled by force QR we 'll have
##-cos(\pi/4)kQq/r_1^2+kQq/r_2^2=0##. Isnt the product Qq simplified by this last equation?
 
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Delta² said:
But suppose vertical component of force PR is ##-cos(\pi/4)kQq/r_1^2## so since it is canceled by force QR we 'll have
##-cos(\pi/4)kQq/r_1^2+kQq/r_2^2=0##. Isnt the product Qq simplified by this last equation?
Yes. I was about to edit..
 
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Thanks a lot for answering this question. I think the question may have mistakes itself. I hope I can get some help with the last stupid question that I've posted too. Thanks.
 

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