What is the value of the triple integral for the given limits and function?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around evaluating a triple integral with specific limits and a given function. Participants explore the steps involved in the integration process, including the handling of nested integrals and the treatment of variables as constants during integration.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the integration limits and the function to be integrated, specifically mentioning difficulty with the term $x+z$.
  • Another participant proposes a reformulation of the integral, suggesting a method to simplify the integration process by separating the variables.
  • Several participants discuss the integration of the function $6xz$, with one participant noting the importance of treating $z$ as a constant during the integration over $x$.
  • A later reply points out an error in the previous calculations, emphasizing that $z$ should not be treated as a constant when integrating over $z$.
  • Participants engage in back-and-forth clarification about the limits of integration and the correct application of integration techniques.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the steps to take in evaluating the integral, but there are points of contention regarding the treatment of variables and the correctness of earlier calculations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the final evaluation of the integral, as some participants express uncertainty about specific steps.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion related to the clarity of variable treatment during integration, particularly concerning the role of $z$ in the integration process. Some mathematical steps remain unresolved, and participants express confusion about certain aspects of the integration.

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\begin{align}\displaystyle
v_{\tiny{s6.15.6.3}}&=\displaystyle
\int_{0}^{1}\int_{0}^{z}\int_{0}^{x+z}
6xz \quad
\, dy \, dx\, dz
\end{align}

$\text{ok i kinda got ? with $x+z$ to do the first step?}\\$
$\text{didn't see an example}$
 
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I would write:

$$I=6\int_0^1 z\int_0^z x\left(\int_0^{x+z}\,dy\right)\,dx\,dz$$

What would your next step be?
 
actually i was going to that,,,
but to scared
ill get to this in the morn.
to hard with just a small cell phone
 
MarkFL said:
I would write:

$$I=6\int_0^1 z\int_0^z x\left(\int_0^{x+z}\,dy\right)\,dx\,dz$$

What would your next step be?

\begin{align}\displaystyle
I&=6\int_0^1 z\int_0^z x\left[\int_0^{x+z}\,dy\right]\,dx\,dz\\
&=6\int_0^1 z\int_0^z x\Biggr|y\Biggr|_0^{x+z}\,dy \, dx \, dz\\
&=6\int_0^1 z\int_0^z x(x+z) \,dx\,dz\\
&=6\int_0^1 z\int_0^z (x^2+xz) \,dx\,dz\\
\end{align}
hopefully
 
karush said:
\begin{align}\displaystyle
I&=6\int_0^1 z\int_0^z x\left[\int_0^{x+z}\,dy\right]\,dx\,dz\\
&=6\int_0^1 z\int_0^z x\Biggr|y\Biggr|_0^{x+z}\,dy \, dx \, dz\\
&=6\int_0^1 z\int_0^z x(x+z) \,dx\,dz\\
&=6\int_0^1 z\int_0^z (x^2+xz) \,dx\,dz\\
\end{align}
hopefully
So far so good. What's the next step? (Remember that z is treated as a constant when you do the x integration.)

-Dan
 
topsquark said:
So far so good. What's the next step? (Remember that z is treated as a constant when you do the x integration.)

-Dan

\begin{align*}\displaystyle
&=6\int_0^1 z\int_0^z (x^2+xz) \,dx\,dz\\
&=6z\int_0^1 \biggr|\frac{x^3}{3}+\frac{x^2}{2}z\biggr|_0^z \,dz\\
\end{align*}

no sure about $z$ ?
 
karush said:
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
&=6\int_0^1 z\int_0^z (x^2+xz) \,dx\,dz\\
&=6z\int_0^1 \biggr|\frac{x^3}{3}+\frac{x^2}{2}z\biggr|_0^z \,dz\\
\end{align*}

no sure about $z$ ?
Again, so far so good. Now plug in the limits for x. You will be substituting x = z and x = 0 into your limit.

[math]\left ( \frac{z^3}{3}+\frac{z^2}{2}z \right ) - \left ( \frac{0^3}{3}+\frac{0^2}{2}z \right )[/math]

-Dan

Edit: Whoops! There is an error in your work but it doesn't involve the x integration you just did. That z on the left side of the integral needs to be back under the integration symbol. z is not considered to be a constant when you are integrating over z. After you integrate over x you should have
[math]6 \int_0^1 z \cdot \left [ \left ( \frac{z^3}{3}+\frac{z^2}{2}z \right ) - \left ( \frac{0^3}{3}+\frac{0^2}{2}z \right ) \right ]
~ dz[/math]
 
topsquark said:
Again, so far so good. Now plug in the limits for x. You will be substituting x = z and x = 0 into your limit.

[math]\left ( \frac{z^3}{3}+\frac{z^2}{2}z \right ) - \left ( \frac{0^3}{3}+\frac{0^2}{2}z \right )[/math]
[math]6 \int_0^1 z \cdot \left [ \left ( \frac{z^3}{3}+\frac{z^2}{2}z \right ) - \left ( \frac{0^3}{3}+\frac{0^2}{2}z \right ) \right ]
~ dz[/math]

\begin{align*}\displaystyle
&I=6 \int_0^1 z \cdot \left [ \left ( \frac{z^3}{3}+\frac{z^2}{2}z \right )
- \left ( \frac{0^3}{3}+\frac{0^2}{2}z \right ) \right ] ~ dz\\
&=6\int_{0}^{1}\frac{z^4}{3}+\frac{z^4}{2} \,dz\\
&=6\int_{0}^{1}\frac{5z^4}{6} \,dz\\
&=5\left[\frac{z^5}{5}\right]_0^1 \\
&=\color{red}{1}
\end{align*}View attachment 7869
 

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