What is the water speed as it leaves the nozzle?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the speed of water as it exits a garden hose nozzle pointed vertically upward. The scenario includes the height of the nozzle and the time it takes for the water to hit the ground after the nozzle is turned off.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of average velocity and kinematic equations to relate time, height, and initial velocity. There are questions about the direction of velocity and the interpretation of terms in the equations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have pointed out potential errors in the original poster's equations and suggested alternative approaches using kinematic equations. There is an ongoing exploration of the time variable and its implications for the calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the effects of gravity on the water's motion and the assumptions made about the time interval and height. There is a mention of a diagram that may clarify the setup, but it is not provided in the discussion.

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Homework Statement



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Suppose you adjust your garden hose nozzle for a hard stream of water. You point the nozzle vertically upward at a height of 1.5 m above the ground. When you quickly turn off the nozzle, you hear the water striking the ground next to you for another 2.0 s.
What is the water speed as it leaves the nozzle?

Homework Equations


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vavg = Δx/ Δt
vfinal2 =vinitial2 + 2ax

The Attempt at a Solution



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From the vavg equation:
vg = 1.5/2t + 10t
v0 = 1.5/2t - 10t

From the other equation

http://www4a.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP10431h9ic8g7736e702600003bb73a2eg362c825?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=34&w=238.&h=35.

http://www4a.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP38881h9ic4fc19b732c400004f1gdedhga6cgg3b?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=34&w=38.&h=18.
http://www4a.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP38851h9ic4fc19b732c400002b4de3h0dg0716h1?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=34&w=49.&h=18.

v0 was (1.5/2t - 10t).
So it becomes 0.75 - 10 = -9.25.

I think my answer is correct because I've come across the value of 9.25 on some other topics too. I'm not asking for a value correction. But what I found is minus 9.25 while others claim it is plus 9.25. Is this because of the direction of the water? Also, what about the spots I wrote (1-t). Have they simply become zero?
 
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You wrote 1.5/2t when you meant 1.5/(2t), then used it as though it wss (1.5/2)t. t cannot possibly be 1; look at the 1-t in your diagram.
There's a much quicker way. You have the time from the last drops of water leaving the pipe to hitting the ground, you have the acceleration, and you have the net change in height. One SUVAT equation will relate these to the initial velocity.
 
haruspex said:
You wrote 1.5/2t when you meant 1.5/(2t), then used it as though it wss (1.5/2)t. t cannot possibly be 1; look at the 1-t in your diagram.
There's a much quicker way. You have the time from the last drops of water leaving the pipe to hitting the ground, you have the acceleration, and you have the net change in height. One SUVAT equation will relate these to the initial velocity.

Thanks for pointing out the silly mistake. This, unfortunately, was the first way to come to my mind. I'd better think more. :D
 

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