What is the work done by a hiker who is climbing up a hill

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work done by a hiker climbing a hill, with the hill's shape described by a function f(x). Participants are exploring the relationship between force, displacement, and the work done over a specified interval.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are considering whether the force is constant and how to express work in terms of displacement and force. There are discussions about using the integral of force over distance and whether to use the hill's equation or horizontal distance in calculations.

Discussion Status

There are multiple interpretations of how to approach the problem, with some participants questioning the correct formulation of the work equation. Suggestions have been made regarding the relationship between force and displacement, but no consensus has been reached.

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Participants are grappling with the definitions of variables and the implications of the hill's equation on the work calculation. There is uncertainty about the assumptions regarding force and the nature of the displacement involved.

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Homework Statement


A hiker of mass(m) climbs up a hill( the equation of the hill is f(x), what is the work done on the interval [a,b]

Homework Equations


[tex]W=\int_{a}^{b}F dx[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


So for this problem I wanted to make sure. We would do:
Assuming Force is constant, we would have [tex]W=Fdelta x[/tex]
[tex]delta x[/tex] can be obtained from f(b)-f(a).
If the force is not constant we do
[tex]W=\int_{f(a)}^{f(b)}F dx[/tex]
Right?
 
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Is the elevation a function of x? Neglecting friction, work would just be [tex]mgdeltax[/tex]
 
I am not sure, my Prof. said that the equation is just the equation of the hill.
 
Shoudn't it be [tex]W=\int_{a}^{b}F dx[/tex]
instead of [tex]W=\int_{f(a)}^{f(b)}F dx[/tex]?
Because work is just area under the force-displacement graph.

I think, for x, x is the horizontal distance and f(x) is the vertical distance.
 
rootX said:
Shoudn't it be [tex]W=\int_{a}^{b}F dx[/tex]
instead of [tex]W=\int_{f(a)}^{f(b)}F dx[/tex]?
Because work is just area under the force-displacement graph.

I think, for x, x is the horizontal distance and f(x) is the vertical distance.
So how about the equation of the hill- f(x)?
 
so...
 
Weave said:
So how about the equation of the hill- f(x)?

:shy:
I dunn know, I was just guesing
:cry:
 
My guess is that the force is constant. I would agree with turdferguson.
Work done depends only on the change in elevation.
So W=mg*delta x
 

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