What is the Work Done by Several Forces?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work done by several forces acting on a crate, specifically focusing on the forces exerted by a worker, gravity, normal force, and friction. The original poster attempts to understand the relationship between force and work in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the equations related to work and question the number and nature of forces acting on the crate. There are attempts to clarify the definitions of work and the conditions under which it is calculated, particularly regarding constant velocity.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants questioning assumptions about the forces involved and clarifying the definitions of work. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the forces and the conditions of motion, but there is no explicit consensus on the calculations yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the crate is moving at constant velocity, which raises questions about the net forces acting on it and the implications for the work done by the worker and friction.

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Homework Statement


Problem # 1
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Homework Equations


Work done by several forces

w=f * d cos theta
w=mg
n=w

The Attempt at a Solution


I can't figure out how to solve a) and b)
NOT SURE:
so my attempt a) f = mg = 30kg*9.8m/s^2 = 294N =magnitute of the force must the worker apply.(NOT SURE)
b) WofF= f d cos theta = 294N * 4.5m * cos0 = 1323N
?
 
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Hi Adrian Pete and welcome to PF.

Your "relevant equations" show no equations. What do you mean by "work done by several forces"? How many forces do you have acting on the crate? How many of them are doing work?
 
5 forces acting on it Sir
 
Can you name these 5 forces and find how much work each one does?
 
a) work must the worker apply = :(
b) work done by the force = :(
c) work done by friction = Wf = 73.5N*4.5m
d) work done by gravity = Wg = 294N*4.5m
e) work done by normal force Wn = 294N*4.5m
only these Sir :( can't figure out to solve a) and b)
 
First, it seems you have misunderstood the questions (a) and (b). It also seems that question (a) has a typo. I believe the first two questions should read
(a) What magnitude of force (not work) must the worker apply?
(b) How much work is done by this force?
There are only 4 forces exerted by (1) the worker, (2) gravity, (3) normal force and (4) friction.
It also seems you think that Work = Force × Distance. This is not necessarily true and is not true for some of the forces here. Please look up the definition for work done by a constant force and apply it correctly.
Finally, you are told that the crate is moving at constant velocity. What must be true for this to be the case?
 
force = m * a?
so a is 0 because it moves at constant velocity?

so force = 30kg * 0 m/s^2

a) f = 0N

so work is w = f d cos theta so,

w = 0 * 4.5m cos 0

so

b) w = 0J = work done by the worker?
 
Adrian Pete said:
orce = m * a?
so a is 0 because it moves at constant velocity?
This is correct. It is not correct that the force exerted by the worker is zero. The worker must exert a force otherwise the crate will not move. Given that the crate is moving and that its acceleration is zero, what must be tru about the forces acting on the crate?
 
since there is no acceleration therefore,

F - fk = ma = 0

F = fk ?

so F is basically fk?

so work done by F is the same as work done by fk?
 
  • #10
Adrian Pete said:
so work done by F is the same as work done by fk?
In magnitude. The work done by fk is negative while the work done by F is positive.
 
  • #11
oh okay, because cos 180 is -1. okay Sir. Thank you for the help ^ _ ^
 
  • #12
Adrian Pete said:
oh okay, because cos 180 is -1. okay Sir. Thank you for the help ^ _ ^
That's correct. You are welcome.
 

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