What kind of internet connection do you have?

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For Internet, SHDSL and other SDSL forms.. xDSL here is very stable.. and is used by a lot of small to medium size buisness.
DSL doesn't have the reliability, mean time to repair, or SLAs that dedicated access has, so it's considered a step backwards to go from dedicated T1 to any type of DSL.

The bigger Buisness are using MPLS on there backbones and consolidating Voice, Video and Data using MPLS as the carrier between Hub and Spoke Sites.
MPLS is in the cloud though, not the access loop, it's been around for a few years here as a WAN option.

In fact so are most teleco companies, soon Mobile phones here will have IP addresses.. :-D I cant wait!
We already assign static IP addresses for our wireless connection cards to use in wireless WANs as a replacement for hardwired frame sites.

As far as I can see most large buisness are using SONET protocols at the data link and physical layers, not ISDN.
ISDN is pretty much obsolete here in the US except as a local services feature since many PBXs still require the signaling for Real Time ANI and screen pops, in a data network it's mostly only used as a backup, but even that's going away with our wireless WAN disaster recovery service.
 
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There probably wont be any need, home users will never need to route that much data.. What is probably going to happen is latency times will decrease as switching techniques become faster and faster.

Bandwidth and latency are not the same thing.
Wasn't there a famous quote of someone saying home users would never need to exceed 14.4 or 28.8kbps....
 
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I still don't see a need to have speeds as fast as 28 kbps. :rolleyes:
 
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ISDN is pretty much obsolete here in the US except as a local services feature since many PBXs still require the signaling for Real Time ANI and screen pops, in a data network it's mostly only used as a backup, but even that's going away with our wireless WAN disaster recovery service.
yep, thats exactly what I said.. I know you are aware that T1 and T3 are ISDN technologies (DS)?

DSL doesn't have the reliability, mean time to repair, or SLAs that dedicated access has, so it's considered a step backwards to go from dedicated T1 to any type of DSL.
Actually BUISNESS grade dsl does.. You should see the SLA I have on some of our sites here.. I can call the MD (CEO) of the ISP if a problem isnt resolved in 24Hours, I have his Direct Number

We already assign static IP addresses for our wireless connection cards to use in wireless WANs as a replacement for hardwired frame sites.
Sure.. But not over GSM you dont.. And especially not in the states.. GSM technology is going IP, I wasnt talking about wireless
 
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We already assign static IP addresses for our wireless connection cards to use in wireless WANs as a replacement for hardwired frame sites.
Dont mix up speed and bandwidth.. There arent one and the same. Anyway I cant think of any reason why on earth someone would need to pass 50Tb/s of Data, only the top teir ISP that are converging there networks use these routers on the backbone. Basically they are routing traffic for millions of people.
 
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What bandwidth would be needed to stream HD video?
Because that will definetely be needed be home computer users.
yes I know, what we already have in theory could do that.. I am unsure about how compressed that formate is or isnt, so I cant say for sure.. But IMO Broadband 4Mb and up could handle it, even in Asynchronous mode
 
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very funny.
Funniest techie chitchat about internet connections I've seen on the web in years. :rolleyes:

I use SBC Yahoo DSL. I do have places to go to get free and faster Internet if I want.
 
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Evo said:
We already assign static IP addresses for our wireless connection cards to use in wireless WANs as a replacement for hardwired frame sites.
Anttech said:
Dont mix up speed and bandwidth..
I didn't mention speed OR bandwidth. What are you talking about?

Anttech said:
Anyway I cant think of any reason why on earth someone would need to pass 50Tb/s of Data, only the top teir ISP that are converging there networks use these routers on the backbone. Basically they are routing traffic for millions of people.
What are you talking about? The cards go into laptops and desktops computers, this isn't in the backbone.
 
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opps My clipboard needs attention :cool:

I ment to quote penguin not you..

Wasn't there a famous quote of someone saying home users would never need to exceed 14.4 or 28.8kbps....
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What are you talking about? The cards go into laptops and desktops computers, this isn't in the backbone.
ermm.. I wasnt talking to u, it was in regard to nothing00 asking about terabit speeds... why did you think I was responding to one of your threads?

I know how wireless cards work!
 
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I know you are aware that T1 and T3 are ISDN technologies (DS)?
It's not the same thing. ISDN can be added (adding the out of band signaling), ISDN - Integrated Services Digital Network DS - Digital Service - a hierarchy of digital signal speeds for classification of lines and trunks. A T1 (DS1) does not come with ISDN on it, it has to be added (if needed) and a client has to have special equipment to use it.

Actually BUISNESS grade dsl does.. You should see the SLA I have on some of our sites here.. I can call the MD (CEO) of the ISP if a problem isnt resolved in 24Hours, I have his Direct Number
"Business grade" DSL is substandard to T1, T3, etc... The mean time to repair for DS1 is 4 hours if dispatch is needed, much faster without dispatch.

Sure.. But not over GSM you dont.. And especially not in the states.. GSM technology is going IP, I wasnt talking about wireless
GSM is wireless. :smile:
 
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It's not the same thing. ISDN can be added (adding the out of band signaling), ISDN - Integrated Services Digital Network DS - Digital Service - a hierarchy of digital signal speeds for classification of lines and trunks. A T1 (DS1) does not come with ISDN on it, it has to be added (if needed) and a client has to have special equipment to use it.
Actually its the same when you look at the protocol especially in reference to the OSI layers which is what I was refering to.. ISDN and T1 use the same Data and physical layered protocols...

"Business grade" DSL is substandard to T1, T3, etc... The mean time to repair for DS1 is 4 hours if dispatch is needed, much faster without dispatch.
Considering both use the same (more or less) local loop I dont understand what you mean. If an ISP says it will fix dsl in 4 hours it can do it.. providing they own the wire.

GSM is wireless.
not wireless as in IP tho! Different protocol, and what I was refering to is that GSM technology is moving to IP.. which is NEW!
 
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opps My clipboard needs attention :cool:

I ment to quote penguin not you..



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ermm.. I wasnt talking to u, it was in regard to nothing00 asking about terabit speeds... why did you think I was responding to one of your threads?

I know how wireless cards work!
:rofl: I hope so!!!! You had me totally confused. I know we have differences US vs EU, but you lost me there! :biggrin:

And yes, the US is SO BEHIND with GSM. :mad: I deal mostly with CDMA & IDEN and i doubt that we will be giving out IP addresses any time in the near future.
 
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yeh I had some interesting chats with the HR dept of Belgacom (the largest Telecoms company in Belgium) Regarding thier infrastructure "shift". They were looking for some Architects and Opperational Engineers (data)to support there IP infrastructure as it expanded more and more in the GSM area, and in fact across there whole network... Was very interesting stuff. IMO whats driving this is G3, being able to deliver value added content to a mobile device will be a big reveune generator for these companies. Using IP with its vast acceptance throughout our industry as the statusquo, means more content can be delivered easier and easier... Whats best is that I am a network engineer muuhhaaaa, more work for me :)

anyhow before you all fall asleep..I'll stop
 

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