What makes the change of sign in Hall?

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The discussion centers around the change of sign in the Hall coefficient for different materials, specifically comparing metals like Copper and Zinc. Participants explore the implications of charge carriers in these materials, questioning the reasons behind the observed signs of the Hall coefficient and the relevance of semiconductor theory to metals.

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  • Some participants assert that the Hall coefficient indicates the nature of majority charge carriers, with electrons being the majority in metals, leading to a negative Hall coefficient.
  • Others argue that Zinc has a positive Hall coefficient, suggesting that holes may be the majority carriers in this case, although this contradicts earlier claims about Zinc being a pure metal with electrons as majority carriers.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the reasons for Zinc's positive Hall coefficient, speculating that it may relate to the effective mass of charge carriers.
  • There is a mention of the anomalous Hall effect, but participants feel it does not adequately address the specific question regarding Zinc.
  • Some participants question the relevance of semiconductor theory to the discussion of metals, particularly in the context of Zinc.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the nature of charge carriers in Zinc or the reasons for its positive Hall coefficient. Multiple competing views remain, particularly regarding the applicability of semiconductor theory to the discussion of metals.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of charge carriers in metals versus semiconductors, and the discussion reflects varying interpretations of the Hall effect in different materials.

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Hi!

I have learned that the Hall-coefficient changes sign according to different metals.

Copper for instance has a positive sign, while Zinc has a negative sign.

Why?

To me an ordinary non-doped metal should always have electrons as beariers of charge.

Further more, I have learned that charge density have no impact on Hall voltage.

Another lerndome, heat is not an issue.

Can anyone explain this?

I have read the Wikipedia article but I did not get any wiser.

Roger
 
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The sign of the Hall coefficient indicates the nature of the majority carriers in a material. For all metals, electrons are the majority carriers(I think we can safely say the only carriers) and so the Hall coefficient for all metals is negative(see here, copper has a negative Hall coefficient too).
But for semiconductors, sometimes holes(the absence of an electron) are the majority carriers. For these materials, the Hall coefficient is positive.
 
Thank you for that link.

I have read a lot by clicking around.

By heart I seem to know that Zinc is not attracted to a magnet (to keep it simple while thinking it is called "diamagnetic").

I think the Wikipedia article expalins nothing about the fact that the Hall coefficient is positive for Zinc.

It tells something about anomalous Hall Effect but actually nothing about my question.

So the question remains, why has Zinc a positive Hall coefficient?

Roger
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I did some editing in that poorly written article :)
 
In a semiconductor, you can have either negative charge carriers (conduction electrons) or positive charge carriers (holes - absence of charge carriers).

If you know about energy bands, then you'll know that when an electron is given enough energy, it jumps from the valance band to the conduction band. This however, leaves a gap behind, which is called a hole.

You can also introduce holes by introducing a Group 3 element into the semiconductor. These elements (such as Boron) only have 3 valance electrons, so they cannot have 4 bonds with silicon unless they steal an electron from a silicon atom. Then that silicon atom only has 3 electrons, unless they steal one from somewhere else, and thus, we see how we can have a positive charge moving in a semiconductor.

If the holes make more of an impact on the conductivity of the semiconductor, then they are the majority charge carrier, and the Hall Resistance will be positive.

Now, the reason why Zinc has a positive Hall coefficient is because its majority charge carrier is holes.

The reason? Don't know. Might have to do with the effective mass of an electron vs the effective mass of a hole in Zinc.

If anyone sees any mistakes, please let me know, I have my semiconductors exam in 3 hours and would really like if I'm spouting out nonsense.
 
I thank you Tweej for your nice reply!

Shyan above has however already confirmed my belief that the majority charge carriers in pure metal such as Zinc are electrons.

In other words, semiconductor theory is not relevant.

So my question remains, why has Zinc a positive Hall coefficient?

Roger
PS
Hope your exam went well :)
 
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