What Mass Must Be Hung to Produce Specific Standing Wave Loops?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving standing waves on a string attached to a mechanical oscillator. The problem specifies a string with a given linear density and requires determining the mass needed to produce specific numbers of loops (harmonics) in the standing wave pattern.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between tension, mass, and wave velocity. There is an attempt to equate different expressions for velocity and solve for the mass needed to achieve the desired standing wave configurations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided calculations and expressed uncertainty regarding the values obtained, particularly concerning the mass required for the first harmonic. Others have suggested checking the velocity calculations and have proposed methods for determining the mass for higher harmonics.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that the string behaves ideally and that the oscillator creates a node at the attachment point. There is also discussion about the mass of the string itself and its impact on the overall calculations.

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Homework Statement



One end of a horizontal string of linear density 6.6*10^-4 kg/m is attached to a small amplitude mechanical 120-Hz oscillator. The string passes over a pulley a distance of l=1.50 m away, and weights are hung from this end. What mass m must be hung from this end of the string to produce (a) one loop, (b) two loops, and (c) five loops of a standing wave? Assume the string at the oscillator is a node, which is nearly true.

µ = Γ = 6.6 * 10^-4 kg/m
f = 120 Hz
L = 1.50 m
g = 9.8 m/s^2

Homework Equations



F_t = mg
v = √(F_t*L/m)
v = Γf
Γ = 2L/n where n = 1 for first harmonic, n = 2 for second harmonic, etc.

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm really not sure where to go with this one, so I'm just going to solve for what I can.

First, I'll solve for velocity.
v = Γf = (0.00066 kg/m)(120 Hz) = 0.0792 m/s

Now I'm going to set the velocity formulas equal to each other to try to solve for m.
√(F_t*L/m) = Γf
√(mg*L/m) = 0.0792
√(g*L) = 0.0792
√(9.8*1.5) = 0.0792
Oh wait, mass canceled itself out >.<

Help is much appreciated!
Thank you!
 
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Here
v = (Mg*L/m)^1/2, where M is mass hung from the other end of the string, and m is the mass of the string.
 
rl.bhat said:
Here
v = (Mg*L/m)^1/2, where M is mass hung from the other end of the string, and m is the mass of the string.

Okay, so I would plug everything in and solve for M?

0.0792 = (9.8M*1.5/0.00066)^1/2
M = 2.82 * 10^-7 = 0.000000282 kg

This seems like a very small mass. Is this how it's solved?
 
Check your v value.
 
Do I use µ = m/L >>> µL=m where µ = 6.6*10^-4 kg/m and L = 1.50 m
so the mass of the string = 0.00099 kg
then
Γ = 2L/n where n=1 and L = 1.50 m so
Γ = 3
So 3*120 = 360 m/s

v = √(Mg*L/m)
360 = √(M*9.8*1.5/(9.9 * 10^-4))
m = 8.73 kg?

So for part b, I would just use 2 instead of 1 for n; and part c I would use 5. Yes?

b) v = 180 m/s; m = 2.18 kg
c) v = 48 m/s; m = 0.155 kg
 
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Seems good.
 

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