What Materials Can Withstand 2300 Celsius and 20 ATM Pressure for Steam Storage?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around identifying suitable materials for storing steam at high temperatures (up to 2300 Celsius) and pressures (up to 20 ATM). The focus is on material properties, potential solutions, and engineering considerations for high-temperature pressure vessels.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests tantalum hafnium carbide (Ta4HfC5) as a potential material due to its high melting point and ability to withstand high pressure and temperature.
  • Another participant proposes looking into Tungsten alloys and provides a link to a material data sheet, noting that these materials are not standard for high-temperature pressure vessels.
  • A different viewpoint questions the use of a single material for both high temperature and pressure resistance, proposing the use of an insulating refractory material inside a conventional steel vessel to manage thermal gradients and ensure structural integrity.
  • This participant also suggests incorporating temperature sensors and a water jacket to monitor and control the temperature of the steel vessel.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the best approach to material selection and vessel design, indicating that multiple competing views remain without a consensus on a single solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully explored the implications of thermal gradients, material interactions, or the specific engineering requirements for high-temperature pressure vessels. There are also unresolved questions regarding the integration of insulation and monitoring systems.

Who May Find This Useful

Engineers and researchers involved in materials science, high-temperature applications, and pressure vessel design may find this discussion relevant.

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Hi a group of us are developing a new system, but are unsure of what material would be best to fulfill a critical role.

The system requires steam to be stored at pressures of upto 20 ATM, and at a temperature initally of 2300 celsius.

What materials would be best suited for this storage?

Thankyou for you suggestions
 
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u can use tantalum hafnium carbide (Ta4HfC5), a refractory compound with a melting point of 4488 K (4215 °C, 7619 °F).it can withstand high pressure and temperature too.
 
Interesting about the material Hassan has suggested. Sounds like some great stuff!

I guess I have to question why a single material should be used for both resisting the high temperature AND resisting the pressure load. For any vessel with high temperature on the ID, there is a thermal gradient out to atmosphere. I would think the standard solution for these situations is to have an insulating material such as a refractory of some type on the inside of a fairly conventional steel vessel. There should be a sufficiently large thermal gradient across the insulation to ensure the material retaining the pressure has sufficient strength at whatever temperature it operates at. You might even water jacket the vessel. Temperature sensors on the steel vessel could also be provided to ensure the steel vessel doesn't exceed a certain temperature. Those sensors could easily be tied into the process controls to alarm at a given high temperature and vent pressure if an even higher temperature is exceeded.
 

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