What Maximum Height Can a Tennis Ball Reach with Reduced Gravity?

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The problem involves a tennis ball thrown upward, reaching a height of 18 m under normal gravity conditions, and seeks to determine the maximum height it can achieve when the acceleration due to gravity is reduced to one-sixth of its normal value. The context is within the subject area of kinematics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of the initial velocity being the same in both scenarios and question whether it can be assumed to be zero. There are inquiries about the use of different equations of motion and the relevance of time in the calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various interpretations of the problem. Some have suggested using the initial velocity from the first scenario to find the maximum height in the altered gravity condition. There is a recognition of the symmetry in projectile motion, but no consensus has been reached on the numerical value of the initial velocity.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem does not provide specific values for initial velocity or time, which may affect the approach to finding the maximum height under reduced gravity conditions.

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Homework Statement



A tennis ball is thrown upward with and reaches height of 18 m. What maximum height can reach this ball on the where acceleration of free fall is 6 times less than g? In both cases initial velocity is same. [sic] (excuse my physics teacher's grammar, don't shoot the messenger! :-p)

g= 9.81 m/s2
x= distance or displacement
v= velocity
a=acceleration (which is g)

Max Height is at V=0

Homework Equations



V=\sqrt{2gx}
ΔX=V_it + (1/2) at^2

The Attempt at a Solution



9.81/6=1.64

V^2=2(1.64)x

Initial velocity in a free fall is 0 m/s, right? If so, v=0 and then x=0

In such a case, it would be odd for the max height to be 0 m.
 
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If the ball is thrown upward, then its initial velocity cannot be zero.

Note the formulation does not require that the initial velocity be zero; it just says it is the same in both cases.
 
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So, I can just use any velocity?

Or must I use a velocity that intersects?

Considering time is neither given nor required, can I use

V_f = V_i+at?

V_f=0 to find the maximum.

I use the gravities as the slope. However, the lines intersect at the origin, where time and velocity equal 0.

0 = -1.64 t

0 = -9.81 t
 
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PerryKid said:
So, I can just use any velocity?

Or must I use a velocity that intersects?
You can find the initial velocity using your first Relevant Equation for the stated conditions that the ball reaches a height of 18 m when gravity is g.

Note that you are taking advantage of the fact that ideal free-fall trajectories are symmetric with respect to time reversal, so if a ball launched upwards with some velocity V reaches maximum height H, then a ball dropped from height H will reach a final velocity V just before impact with the ground.
 
Does that really matter what the initial velocity is numerically? You know it is the same. That means the initial kinetic energy is the same.
 

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