What radiates more heat, white or black?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the question of which color, black or white, radiates heat more effectively when comparing two identical objects differing only in color. The scope includes thermodynamics concepts, emissivity, and the impact of surrounding temperatures on heat radiation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that black objects radiate heat faster than white objects.
  • Others note that the surrounding temperature influences the rate of heat absorption and emission, suggesting that if the surroundings are warmer, the objects may absorb heat faster.
  • One participant emphasizes that color alone is not a definitive factor in thermodynamics, pointing out that surface emissivity plays a crucial role in heat radiation.
  • There is a discussion about the reasons behind black objects emitting more heat, with some participants mentioning that black surfaces absorb a wider range of energy compared to lighter colors.
  • Another participant questions the implications of surrounding temperatures, suggesting that the energy emitted may not necessarily be in the form of heat.
  • One participant argues that the surroundings do not affect the black object's ability to radiate heat, stating that it will radiate more heat regardless of the surrounding conditions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the influence of color and surrounding temperatures on heat radiation, indicating that there is no consensus on the matter. Multiple competing perspectives remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of heat radiation, including factors such as emissivity and the conditions of the surrounding environment, which are not fully resolved within the conversation.

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If I have 2 objects that are the same is every way except for the color, which object will radiate heat faster; the black or the white?
 
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Black.
 
FZ is right as the question is worded. However, it depends on if the surrounding space is warmer or colder. If it's warmer it will be absorbing heat faster.
 
well i have never heard of white body radiation...
 
It really is not that easy of a question to answer. Color is not specifically a factor in any thermodynamics relationship. What is a factor is surface emissivity. If the bodies are the same in every way the temperature of the 2 bodies will only be different the emissivity has changed. (This may well happen)
 
Originally posted by Artman
FZ is right as the question is worded. However, it depends on if the surrounding space is warmer or colder. If it's warmer it will be absorbing heat faster.
Faster than what? The question wasn't whether it would absorb or emit, but which would emit more: Black. The way the equations work, you can consider an object to be simultaneously absorbing and emitting radiation.
 
Ok now is there a reason for why black emits more? I mean like a real reason not just a vague logical explanation.
 
Black tends to adsorp a wider band of energy then lighter colors which reflect more, thus black surfaces can be warmer then light. There is much more then just color involved, so this is pretty much a generaliztion which may not be true in every case.
 
Originally posted by russ_watters
...The question wasn't whether it would absorb or emit, but which would emit more: Black. The way the equations work, you can consider an object to be simultaneously absorbing and emitting radiation.

He also said radiate HEAT faster. If the space around them is colder than the two objects, which will radiate heat faster? The energy emitted may not be in the form of heat.
 
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Actually the surroundings make no difference. Let's say you have 2 objects, one of them black and one of them not black and both are gaining more heat than they are emiting. The black object will radiate more heat as well as absorb more heat.
 

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