What sort of engineering is best for this?

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The discussion centers around the types of engineering disciplines suitable for careers in large industrial environments such as power plants, oil refineries, and steel mills. Participants explore various engineering fields and their relevance to working directly in these settings.

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  • Some participants suggest that civil/structural engineering is relevant for the design of industrial facilities, while marine engineering is specifically needed for oil rigs.
  • Construction engineering is mentioned as applicable to the construction phase of these facilities.
  • Chemical, mechanical, and industrial engineering are noted for their roles in the processes and machinery involved in these industries.
  • Electrical engineering is highlighted for its application to the electrical systems within such facilities.
  • One participant shares personal experience working in an industrial brewery with a degree in electrical engineering, indicating that various engineering backgrounds can lead to similar roles.
  • Control engineering and industrial engineering are discussed as being closely involved with operational needs and control systems in industrial settings.
  • Some participants emphasize the importance of internships for gaining relevant experience in the desired field.
  • There is mention of the transient nature of some engineering roles, such as construction or installation, compared to more permanent positions in operations.
  • Materials engineering is also suggested as a relevant field for direct involvement in plants.

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Participants express multiple competing views on which engineering discipline is best suited for working in industrial environments, with no consensus reached on a single preferred field. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal path for entering these industries.

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Participants note that specific roles may vary significantly based on the type of engineering and the nature of the job, with some positions being temporary and others more stable. There is also a mention of the limitations of certain educational programs in relation to specific engineering specializations.

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Individuals considering careers in industrial engineering, students exploring engineering disciplines, and professionals seeking insights into various engineering roles in large industrial settings may find this discussion beneficial.

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I want to work in massive industrial scenarios - power plants, oil refineries, steel mills, oil rigs, etc.

Now I know that there are probably multiple that are more specialized for each of these, but is there one engineering that sort of encompasses all of these and would allow one to have a selection at it?

Also, would a school like UC Berkeley be OK to move into these industries?

Thanks.
 
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What kind of work?

Civil/structural engineering would be used in the design of such facilities. Oil rigs would require a specialty of marine engineering.

Construction engineering would be used in the construction of such facilities.

Chemical, Mechanical and industrial engineering applies to the processes used in such facilities, including the process, the machinery and control systems.

Electrical engineering would apply to the electrical systems used in such facilities.
 
Would any of them be directly involved at the plants? Ie. working there?
 
drailing said:
Would any of them be directly involved at the plants? Ie. working there?

I worked in a massive industrial brewery for my first job after undergrad. I had a BS in Electrical Engineering from UC Davis, so that's one data point. I was working on maintaining and installing production equipment.

A friend of mine with a BS in Chemical Engineering from UC Davis got his first job at the huge Tesco Oil Refinery in Martinez, CA, so either education works. The key is to get an internship in the kind of situation you want.

Why do you want to work in a plant? Let me tell you, wearing ear plugs and safety glasses all the time gets old! Also, I hated wearing a coat in the brewhouse and then melting when I stepped outside in the 100 degree heat. I'm very much enjoying sitting on my butt in front of a computer these days.
 
Control Engineering or Industrial Engineering is really close to the action and is heavily involved in operational needs. Those who engineer control systems decide what kinds of sensors, what kinds of valves, what sorts of control systems, SCADA systems, and reporting systems to use. Berkley doesn't have a control systems program. Few schools do. I suggest using an Electrical Engineering curriculum instead with emphasis on power engineering instead.

Alternatively, Industrial Engineering can involve many aspects having to do with process design, predictive maintenance, failure mode analysis, and so on. The latter appears to be available at Berkley.

I'm partial to Control Engineering, only because I am a registered Control Engineer. In any case, I recommend student membership in ISA, the International Society for Automation to get some idea of what Control Engineering is all about.

Good Luck!
 
drailing said:
Would any of them be directly involved at the plants? Ie. working there?
Yes - but some jobs, e.g., construction or installation are temprorary, and others, e.g., operations, are more long term or permanent.

Some engineers work in an office and visit a site temporarily for some period dealing with construction of the facility or installation of some equipment. These would construction, mechanical, electrical engineers. They would move from project to project and from site to site accordingly.

The folks involved in operations work a particular plant, but might get moved to a different or new plant depending on the skills.
 
It sounds like you want to get into manufacturing..

A industrial/manufacturing engineer can be involved with the plant operations and how things are handled.

You can even specialize.

We just hired a manufacturing engineer who specialized in electrical.
 
drailing said:
Would any of them be directly involved at the plants? Ie. working there?

Materials Engineering.
 

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