What torque will bring the balls to a halt in 5.6s?

  • Thread starter Thread starter aligass2004
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Balls Torque
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves two balls of different masses connected by a rigid rod, rotating about their center of mass. The objective is to determine the torque required to bring the system to a halt within a specified time frame.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the moment of inertia and the need to find the center of mass of the system, questioning how to determine the positions of the masses. There is exploration of the relationship between the masses and their positions, as well as the implications for torque calculations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering insights into the calculations needed to find the center of mass and moment of inertia. There is a recognition of the complexity due to the differing masses and the need for careful consideration of the system's balance.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty regarding the positions of the masses and the calculations involved in determining the center of mass, indicating potential gaps in information or understanding of the setup.

aligass2004
Messages
236
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement



A 1.2kg ball and a 2.2kg ball are connected by a 1.0m long rigid, massless rod. The rod is rotating clockwise about its center of mass at 26rpm. What torque will bring the balls to a halt in 5.6s?

Homework Equations



T = I(alpha)
Wf = Wi + alpha (delta t)
I = m1(r1^2) + m2(r2^2)

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried finding I = (1.2kg)(.5m)^2 + (2.2kg)(.5m)^2 = .85. Then I tried using Wf = Wi + alpha(delta t) to find alpha, which I got to be -.829. Then I tried using T = I(alpha) and I got -7.047, but it was wrong.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
You need to find the centre of mass of the system. Since the balls are different masses, the axis of rotation will not be in the middle of the rod. Once you have the position of the centre of mass, you can find I.
 
The center of mass = (x1m1 + x2m2)/(m1 + m2), but I'm not sure what the positions would be.
 
Think of it like trying to balance this system on a fulcrum. You need to figure out where to set it so the system doesn't rotate. So the sum of the torques (rxF) will be zero. You can express x1 in terms of x2 since you've been given the total length of the rod. That let's you reduce your equation to one unknown variable (x2), that you can solve for and therefore determine the positions of both masses.
 
So it would be the Xc = (1-x2)m1 + x2m2/(m1 + m2). I'm still not sure how I would solve for x2. I mean, if I set that equation to zero I get 1.201, but that can't be right because it's bigger than the whole length.
 
For equilibrium: m1(1-x2) - m2x2 = 0 (summing the torques) The negative sign is what will make it work. (since one of the masses lies in the negative direction of your reference point)

I hope I'm making some sense, I'm short on time.
 
So x2 would be -1.2?
 

Similar threads

Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
Replies
7
Views
3K
Replies
10
Views
2K
Replies
8
Views
5K
  • · Replies 24 ·
Replies
24
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
5K
Replies
3
Views
4K