What Value of x Maximizes the Function y=axln(b/x)?

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The discussion revolves around maximizing the function \( y = a \cdot x \cdot \ln\left(\frac{b}{x}\right) \). Participants are exploring the process of finding the value of \( x \) that maximizes this function through differentiation.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss taking the derivative of the function and setting it to zero to find critical points. There are attempts to apply logarithmic properties and the chain rule in the differentiation process. Some participants suggest rewriting the logarithmic expression before differentiation.

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The conversation includes various attempts to differentiate the function correctly, with some participants noting missed steps or rules, such as the chain rule. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the correct application of differentiation techniques, and while some participants claim to have solved the problem, others express skepticism about the correctness of those solutions.

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There is a focus on ensuring the correct application of calculus rules, particularly in the context of maximizing a function. Some participants reference previous discussions or attempts to clarify their reasoning.

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Homework Statement


$$y=a\cdot x\cdot ln\left(\frac{b}{x}\right)$$
The derivative should be 0 (to maximize), what's x?

Homework Equations


$$(ln\:x)'=\frac{1}{x}$$
$$(x^a)'=ax^{(a-1)}$$
$$(uv)'=u'v+v'u$$

The Attempt at a Solution


$$\dot y=a \left[ ln \left( \frac{b}{x} \right)-x\frac{x}{b}x^{-2} \right]=a \left[ ln \left( \frac{b}{x} \right)-\frac{1}{b} \right]$$
$$\dot y=0 \rightarrow ln \left( \frac{b}{x} \right)-\frac{1}{b}=0 \rightarrow x=e^{\left( \frac{1}{b} \right)}$$
But the answer should be ##x=\frac{b}{e}##
 
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Have you tried rewriting ln (b / x) using the rules of logarithms before taking the derivative of the whole expression?
 
Karol said:

Homework Statement


$$y=a\cdot x\cdot ln\left(\frac{b}{x}\right)$$
The derivative should be 0 (to maximize), what's x?

Homework Equations


$$(ln\:x)'=\frac{1}{x}$$
$$(x^a)'=ax^{(a-1)}$$
$$(uv)'=u'v+v'u$$

The Attempt at a Solution


$$\dot y=a \left[ ln \left( \frac{b}{x} \right)-x\frac{x}{b}x^{-2} \right]=a \left[ ln \left( \frac{b}{x} \right)-\frac{1}{b} \right]$$
$$\dot y=0 \rightarrow ln \left( \frac{b}{x} \right)-\frac{1}{b}=0 \rightarrow x=e^{\left( \frac{1}{b} \right)}$$
But the answer should be ##x=\frac{b}{e}##
You missed the Chain rule.

Also it may be make things easier to first expand the logarithm.

##\displaystyle \ \ln\left(\frac{b}{x}\right)=\ln(b)-\ln(x) \ ##
 
This question is from my post in physics, i re-wrote the constants in order not to confuse.
Yes, i used there the logarithm's rules:
$$y=a\cdot x\cdot ln\left(\frac{b}{x}\right)=a\cdot x\cdot (ln\:b-ln\:x)$$
$$\dot y=a\left[( ln\:b-ln\:x )-x\frac{1}{x} \right]=a(ln\:b-ln\:-1)=a\left[ ln\left( \frac{b}{x}\right)-1 \right]$$
 
SammyS said:
You missed the Chain rule.
$$\left[x\cdot ln\left( \frac{b}{x} \right)\right]'=ln \left( \frac{b}{x} \right)+x\frac{x}{b}(-b)\frac{1}{x^2}=x\left[ ln\left( \frac{b}{x} \right)-1\right]$$
I think it's solved, i forgot the constant b, thanks
 
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Karol said:
$$\left[x\cdot ln\left( \frac{b}{x} \right)\right]'=ln \left( \frac{b}{x} \right)+x\frac{x}{b}(-1)\frac{1}{x^2}$$
What's the derivative of ##\displaystyle \ \frac{b}{x} \ ?\ ##
 
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See my answer in #5, i solved, thanks
 
Karol said:
See my answer in #5, i solved, thanks
That's incorrect.
 

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