What warms atmospheric nitrogen?

In summary, the conversation discusses the role of nitrogen in absorbing and emitting electromagnetic frequencies and its impact on atmospheric temperature. It is noted that nitrogen does not significantly contribute to the greenhouse effect, but rather receives thermal energy from the ground and oceans through conduction and convection. The conversation also mentions the importance of thermal equilibrium in the atmosphere and the role of greenhouse gases in cooling through radiation. Nitrogen is found to be better at convection than radiation, leading to a warmer temperature if it could not exchange energy with the rest of the atmosphere.
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Is there a particular narrow band of EM frequencies that nitrogen absorbs to increase its temperature?
 
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Nitrogen as N2 has it's absorption and emission bands but they are not in infrared, so it isn't a greenhouse gas.
Nitrogen Oxides are though.
 
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Thanks, I'm aware of that. What I'm ultimately trying to figure out is where Nitrogen receives its thermal energy from in the atmosphere.
 
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CharlesBoles said:
Thanks, I'm aware of that. What I'm ultimately trying to figure out is where Nitrogen receives its thermal energy from in the atmosphere.
Mostly from the ground and the oceans. This is the general case for the atmosphere: the vast majority of the solar radiation hitting the planet heats up the surface, and it is the surface that then heats up the atmosphere through conduction (and convection).
 
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DrClaude said:
Mostly from the ground and the oceans. This is the general case for the atmosphere: the vast majority of the solar radiation hitting the planet heats up the surface, and it is the surface that then heats up the atmosphere through conduction (and convection).
That makes sense and goes a way to explaining the temperature lapse rate. There's a lot more energy reaching the surface than is absorbed on the way through the atmosphere.
 
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You seem to be hung up on "nitrogen". That's really not the most important factor (which is that the surface warms and the atmosphere is in contact with it)
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
You seem to be hung up on "nitrogen". That's really not the most important factor (which is that the surface warms and the atmosphere is in contact with it)

Even more important, is that whatever the ways of gaining/losing heat may be, the atmosphere is in thermal equilibrium, and the various kinds of molecules will have the same temperature, no matter what does the convecting or radiating.

Another thing is that cooling by radiation is also mainly done by greenhouse gases, and at 10 km or so, the incoming heat would come for a large part from convecton, but the outgoing heat would be more in the form of radiation. Nitrogen does fine at convection, but is not good at radiating, so it would be warmer, if it couldn't exchange energy with the rest of the atmosphere.
 

1. What is the main source of atmospheric nitrogen?

The main source of atmospheric nitrogen is the Earth's atmosphere, where it makes up about 78% of the air we breathe. It can also be found in soils, oceans, and living organisms.

2. How does atmospheric nitrogen get converted into a usable form?

Atmospheric nitrogen is converted into a usable form through a process called nitrogen fixation. This can occur through natural means, such as lightning strikes, or through industrial processes, such as the Haber-Bosch process.

3. Does atmospheric nitrogen contribute to global warming?

No, atmospheric nitrogen itself does not contribute to global warming. However, it is a part of the nitrogen cycle, which can indirectly affect climate change through the release of greenhouse gases such as nitrous oxide.

4. What role does atmospheric nitrogen play in plant growth?

Atmospheric nitrogen is essential for plant growth as it is a key component of proteins and DNA. However, plants cannot directly use atmospheric nitrogen and must first be converted into a usable form by bacteria in the soil.

5. Can atmospheric nitrogen be harmful to humans?

No, atmospheric nitrogen is not harmful to humans as it is relatively inert and non-toxic. However, high levels of nitrogen compounds, such as nitrites and nitrates, can be harmful to human health if consumed in large quantities.

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