What would happen if ozone, nitrogen and oxygen disappear?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the hypothetical scenario of what would occur if ozone, nitrogen, and oxygen did not absorb UV radiation, specifically focusing on the expected temperature profile in the atmosphere from the surface to the top. Participants are asked to specify temperatures at key atmospheric boundaries such as the Tropopause, Stratopause, and Mesopause.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the surface temperature would increase while the top (Thermopause) would remain unchanged, but expresses uncertainty about the temperature profile in between.
  • Another participant points out that the original post lacks necessary components such as relevant equations and emphasizes that guessing is not sufficient in a scientific context.
  • A different viewpoint argues that if oxygen, nitrogen, and ozone did not absorb UV radiation, the laws of physics would not apply, rendering the question nonsensical. They further assert that if all these gases were removed, there would effectively be no atmosphere, making the question moot.
  • One participant questions whether the initial inquiry is indeed a homework problem, indicating a potential misunderstanding of the context.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus, as there are competing views regarding the validity of the initial question and its implications. Some participants focus on the hypothetical scenario while others challenge its feasibility.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in the original post, including missing equations and assumptions regarding the behavior of gases in the atmosphere under the proposed conditions.

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Hi everyone!

I have some trouble figuring out the following question:

If oxygen, nitrogen and ozone did not absorb UV radiation, what would you expect the temperature profile in the atmosphere to look like between the surface and top of the atmosphere? Specify the temperatures at Tropopause, Stratopause and Mesopause.

My guess would be that the surface would become hotter and the top (Thermopause) would stay the same, however, I am not sure about the rest.

I would appreciate any help!
 
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Hello nicbod, :welcome:

To begin with, some PF tips:

The template -- using it is mandatory in homework fora -- should not be deleted and completed in all points:

Homework Statement


Nice exercise.

Homework Equations


This in particular is missing in your post -- what influences this temperature profile in the various height regions ?

The Attempt at a Solution


Guessing doesn't count. PF is a scientific platform
 
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nicbod said:
If oxygen, nitrogen and ozone did not absorb UV radiation ...
Then the laws of physics would not apply, so ANY question based on that hypothesis amounts to "if the laws of physics did not apply, what would the laws of physics say about <insert nonsense of your choice>".

If, on the other hand, you mean, literally, what your subject line asks and all the oxygen and nitrogen were removed from the atmosphere, then basically there wouldn't BE any atmosphere, so your question would be moot.
 
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Was I wrongfooted in assuming this is homework ?
 

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