What's harder? Math, Physics or Engineering?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the perceived difficulty of math, physics, and engineering as academic disciplines. Participants share personal experiences and opinions on the challenges associated with each field, exploring aspects of theory, application, and personal aptitude.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that math is easier due to its well-defined nature, while others contend that physics and engineering require practical application of mathematical concepts.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about concepts in physics, such as quantum tunneling, suggesting they seem less well-defined compared to mathematical principles.
  • Another participant highlights the subjective nature of grading in humanities compared to the objective nature of math and science, which they find less intimidating.
  • Some participants suggest that the difficulty of each discipline depends on individual strengths and interests, noting that some excel in math but struggle with physics or engineering, and vice versa.
  • There is a discussion about the workload in engineering, with one participant mentioning the importance of methodical calculations and project management skills.
  • Another participant shares their personal struggle with math, attributing it to a lack of foundational education prior to returning to studies.
  • Some participants propose that the depth of mathematical knowledge required for mathematicians is greater than that for physicists and engineers, which could influence perceptions of difficulty.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on which discipline is harder, with no consensus reached. The discussion reflects multiple competing views and personal experiences regarding the challenges of math, physics, and engineering.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference personal experiences and educational backgrounds, which may influence their perspectives on difficulty. The discussion includes subjective assessments of grading practices and the nature of assignments across disciplines.

  • #31
Tom Mattson said:
I think that pure mathematics is the hardest, hands down. A lot of people who say "Aw, math is easy!" probably never took a "real" math course. By that I mean that they probably never went beyond the calculus/linear algebra/diff eq sequence required of engineering majors. Once you get away from those grind-out-the-calculations courses, you get into the real meat of the issue: proving theorems.

Well, you get a lot of that as a physics undergraduate as well in this country. The idea is that if you're going to use mathematics, you might as well learn the theory behind it. So every physics student tags along with the mathematicians and gets algebra, analysis, etc... courses that are aimed at math students, so with no practical applications in mind whatsoever. You know, that kind of course that goes : axiom-theorem-proof-theorem-proof-lemma-theorem-proof-lemma-lemma-lemma-theorem-proof, etc...

It is tough at first, but once you get used to it, math becomes a whole lot less difficult. I still hold that physics is harder.
 
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  • #32
Learning undergraduate math, even the abstract kind is heavy on memorization, and I suppose easier than undergraduate physics with all those calculations. But doing math; i.e. thinking up new theorems, is harder than almost anything, and I believe there are fewer clues than in physics to help you along.
 
  • #33
Asking which subject is harder depends on who you are asking.

What is "harder" is purely subjective. Person A might find math a lot harder than physics and Person B might find physics a lot harder than math.

I concur with Tom. A lot of people think math is limited to introductory calculus (which I find a joke) and differential equations. Most people fail to note specializations like Real Analysis, Complex Analysis, and Topology which are not simply "plug in and turn the mathematical crank." Those are subjects with a basis in proof writing.
 
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