What's inbetween an atom's nucleus and electrons?

In summary: And since mass and energy are inseparable then it stands to reason that there must be some thing there that holds the energy.In summary, there is an energy that exists between the electrons that is held together by some unknown force.
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MrPickle
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If every thing's made up of atoms then that means air's made of atoms too so there can't be air between an atom's nucleus and electron so what is there? Nothing?
 
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Great question. You're right, nothing (to our knowledge).
Empty space makes up 99.9% (or more) of matter... and matter itself makes up a ridiculously small portion of the universe...
At the same time i should point out that the bohr model isn't exactly accurate (i.e. electrons don't circule around the nucleus like planets around the sun). Electrons aren't at anyone place at any particular time, they can only be described by what region they will most likely be in at a particular time. So in a way, this "empty space" is a region where there might be electrons (though very unlikely -> especially far away).
 
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lzkelley said:
Great question. You're right, nothing (to our knowledge).
Empty space makes up 99.9% (or more) of matter... and matter itself makes up a ridiculously small portion of the universe...
At the same time i should point out that the bohr model isn't exactly accurate (i.e. electrons don't circule around the nucleus like planets around the sun). Electrons aren't at anyone place at any particular time, they can only be described by what region they will most likely be in at a particular time. So in a way, this "empty space" is a region where there might be electrons (though very unlikely -> especially far away).

Thank you, that's been bugging me and now I know :)
 
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One question left... what method we use to measure the position of electron around the nucleus. See, the problem now is I'm starting to doubt how we conclude things... or should I say what is the extent of the experiment. Just like the double split experiment show interfearance pattern, but when we observe it, the patter go away. Turn out that cause by the device we use to observe. "That's the story I got".
 
  • #5
How can nothing be in the space that could hold an electron, but doesnt?

Space is quite literally just space. It's nothing. Because there is truly nothing in space, it is a vacuum.

If nothing was inbetween the electrons, wouldn't they as well be a vacuum?
 
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pirtle said:
How can nothing be in the space that could hold an electron, but doesnt?

Space is quite literally just space. It's nothing. Because there is truly nothing in space, it is a vacuum.

If nothing was inbetween the electrons, wouldn't they as well be a vacuum?


There are probabilities for where the electron will be located at any given moment. Take hydrogen for example, which only has one electron. Arbitrarily, let's say there's a 90% chance that the electron will reside in the first energy shell. That means that there's a 10% chance that the electron will not be in that shell and thus it will be completely empty space.

As to your second question, I'm slightly confused as to what you mean. Just because that their is empty space between one electron and another electron doesn't mean that the electrons themselves are vacuums. Similarly, just because a jar encompasses a vacuum doesn't mean that the jar itself is a vacuum.
 
  • #7
WilliamD said:
As to your second question, I'm slightly confused as to what you mean. Just because that their is empty space between one electron and another electron doesn't mean that the electrons themselves are vacuums. Similarly, just because a jar encompasses a vacuum doesn't mean that the jar itself is a vacuum.

i was referring to the empty space between the electrons. when i picture empty space, i picture a vacuum. would the empty spaces be microscopic vacuums?

sorry for the poorly worded question
 
  • #8
Well...a vacuum is defined as a space that contains absolutely no matter. There will be next to no matter in the space between electrons, but there will always be neutrinos traveling through that space which are tiny particles (but still have mass).
 
  • #9
Well may be some of you say nothing is there between an atom and electron, which i personaly agree with but there is another answer to this question in my personal opinion is that there is energy and since E=mc^2 so mass is some what equal to energy.
 

1. What is the space between an atom's nucleus and electrons called?

The space between an atom's nucleus and electrons is called the electron cloud or electron orbital.

2. What is the role of the electron cloud in an atom?

The electron cloud is responsible for holding and organizing the electrons in an atom. It also determines the size and shape of the atom.

3. How is the distance between an atom's nucleus and electrons determined?

The distance between an atom's nucleus and electrons is determined by the energy level of the electrons. The higher the energy level, the further the electrons are from the nucleus.

4. Can the distance between an atom's nucleus and electrons change?

Yes, the distance between an atom's nucleus and electrons can change if the energy level of the electrons changes. This can happen through various processes, such as absorption or emission of energy.

5. Is there any matter in the space between an atom's nucleus and electrons?

No, there is no matter in the space between an atom's nucleus and electrons. The electron cloud is made up of negatively charged electrons, which are not considered matter. However, there may be electromagnetic fields present in this space.

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