What's the best way to start learning physics?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the best ways for a beginner to start learning physics, considering various educational backgrounds and goals. It explores the importance of mathematics, practical experiments, and personal motivations for studying physics.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that foundational math knowledge, such as Algebra and Trigonometry, is crucial before starting physics courses.
  • Others argue that engaging in experiments is equally important to grasp the concepts of physics, as theoretical knowledge alone may lead to confusion.
  • A participant emphasizes the need to understand one's motivation for studying physics, as different goals (hobby vs. professional education) require different approaches and commitments.
  • There is a discussion about the varying educational systems and how terms like "first year of upper secondary school" may not be universally understood, potentially affecting the advice given.
  • Some participants express frustration with online learning resources, noting that technical issues can hinder the learning experience.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of math and experiments in learning physics, but there is no consensus on the best starting point or the impact of personal goals on the learning path.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects varying levels of math knowledge among participants and highlights the lack of clarity regarding educational terminology across different countries.

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Consider a person who has never studied physics, never is the right word, what do you think is the best way to start? Or, how to start?
 
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In high school?
Learn Algebra and Trigonometry. Enroll in the Physics course offered at the high school.

Community College?
Learn Algebra 2 and at least the basics of Trigonometry. Enroll in Introductory or elementary Physics.
Had at least one semester of Calculus at the college level? Try the first real Physics course intended for the science & engineering students.
 
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Natalinatul said:
Consider a person who has never studied physics, never is the right word, what do you think is the best way to start? Or, how to start?

What's your math knowledge? That will determine where to start.
 
I'm not sure what happens in high school Physics. Take the more advanced approach if you are qualified. Why? Anything less than Physics 1 - Mechanics, as intended for the science and engineering students, will be missing too much and you get less powerful instruction and less powerful learning. The Physics 1 course will force you to learn about vectors, force you to think analytically, and this course and beyond it require at least Intermediate Algebra, significant Trigonometry, and as you progress, increasingly more use of Calculus.
 
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Of course, math is very important, but what's as important is to also do experiments!
 
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vanhees71 said:
Of course, math is very important, but what's as important is to also do experiments!

I think this is a very good point. Without the experiments and demonstrations, the most important concepts are just words ("force," "acceleration," and so on). I think people who try to learn physics only by reading books really miss out (especially at the beginning). Many of the threads here on PF are started by people so confused, because they have no real feeling for the meaning of the words they use.
 
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micromass said:
What's your math knowledge? That will determine where to start.
My math knowledge? I just finished first year of upper secondary school, my math is pretty basic
 
Natalinatul said:
My math knowledge? I just finished first year of upper secondary school, my math is pretty basic

That doesn't tell me much. Please be detailed in what math you know and don't know.
 
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Natalinatul said:
Consider a person who has never studied physics, never is the right word, what do you think is the best way to start? Or, how to start?

In all of your posts in this thread so far, you never once mentioned anything on the REASON why you want to study physics, and what is your eventual goal. Are you interested in it as a hobby, so that you can understand the basic idea? Or do you expect to have the same level of physics education as an undergraduate major? Or do you want to gain a Ph.D level knowledge?

Each one of those carry different paths and different level of commitments and difficulties. Without your elaboration on your goals, there is no way anyone can give you any kind of accurate response, or at least, I certainly can't.

Zz.
 
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Natalinatul said:
My math knowledge? I just finished first year of upper secondary school, my math is pretty basic
ZapperZ said:
In all of your posts in this thread so far, you never once mentioned anything on the REASON why you want to study physics, and what is your eventual goal. Are you interested in it as a hobby, so that you can understand the basic idea? Or do you expect to have the same level of physics education as an undergraduate major? Or do you want to gain a Ph.D level knowledge?

Each one of those carry different paths and different level of commitments and difficulties. Without your elaboration on your goals, there is no way anyone can give you any kind of accurate response, or at least, I certainly can't.

Zz.
I'm guessing, Algebra 1 at best. Natalinatul would seem to be ninth-grader. Three more years of college preparatory Mathematics in high school are still needed. Then, keep going with more Mathematics.
 
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gmax137 said:
I think people who try to learn physics only by reading books really miss out

I can attest to this statement.
 
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Natalinatul said:
I just finished first year of upper secondary school, my math is pretty basic
Different countries have different educational systems. I don't know what "first year of upper secondary" means in terms of typical age or the level of math studied. I suspect few other people here know, because I don't remember ever seeing that term before.
 
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There's a lot of open course ware on the Internet where you can learn a vast amount of subjects. However, my limited experience has yielded very informative lectures/videos with a homework program on a website that doesn't work and stays broken for quite an extensive period of time. Very disgusting especially when I was actually enjoying learning calculus and being productive for once.
 

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