What's the deal with thoughts and quantum ice?

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The discussion revolves around the controversial claims made by Dr. Masaru Emoto regarding the influence of thoughts and emotions on water crystal formation. Participants express skepticism about the scientific validity of Emoto's work, noting the lack of peer-reviewed studies and the self-published nature of his findings. Critics argue that his claims lack rigorous scientific support and suggest that they exploit public confusion about science. Some participants mention that the term "quantum" is misused in this context, equating it with pseudoscience. There is also mention of Emoto's refusal to conduct double-blind tests, further undermining the credibility of his claims. Overall, the conversation highlights a significant divide between those intrigued by Emoto's ideas and those who view them as unfounded and misleading.
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read this little bit

http://www.whatthebleep.com/crystals/

the scientists involved in this project seem to think that thoughts can have an effect on the quantum level, leading to different formations of ice.

i find it strange that the happy ideas we think of (love and gratitude, mozart) makes a beatiful ~snowflake, while hate leads to that ugly brown thing...just as we would want it to. maybe the formation is actually random, but that is what we were looking for?

furthermore, a layman such as myself might suggest that the shape formed by "heavy metal music" is a result of the water shaking.

i don't really believe this stuff because this is the only source i could find.

jeremy
 
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Nonsense. The give away is the phrase "self-published book" which you can read as "not peer reviewed." What we have here, I think, is another example of a so called scientist preying on the confusion that exists amongst non-scientists. Guys like this give the real scientists a bad name.

I guess he could be right :rolleyes: , and the moon might be made of cheese (the moon landing was faked after all, so who knows what the moon is made of).
 
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that website is a few years old but Dr. Emoto is well renowned for his findings in Japan. They have been verified and are real facts.. its really interesting thing to think about. I've been following it since "what the bleep do we know" came out on DVD.
 
Oh man this thread is going to get eaten up...

What the bleep do these people know is more like it.
 
thats more rediculous than my Hydrogen atom "theory" which is pretty rediculous!
 
Jeremy said:
http://www.whatthebleep.com/crystals/

i find it strange that the happy ideas we think of (love and gratitude, mozart) makes a beatiful ~snowflake, while hate leads to that ugly brown thing...

i don't really believe this stuff because this is the only source i could find.
jeremy

Scientifically it is complete rubbish, but that's not the criteria.

The only thing what matters is that it sells. The naive question
is if there is scientific merit. The real question is if it makes a living.

Dr. Masaru Emoto's European and North American tour:

http://www.hado.net/Seminar.html

It seems Dr. Masaru Emoto has a great time traveling around the world in
the limelight with his hoax. Just doing his act as any traveling artist like
circus artists, magicians, traveling theaters, miracle doctors. Regard, Hans
 
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Chipper said:
that website is a few years old but Dr. Emoto is well renowned for his findings in Japan. They have been verified and are real facts.
Why is it that I can't find a single peer-reviewed article authored by a "masaru emoto" (or one that cites any work by him) ?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=masaru+emoto+citebase&btnG=Google+Search

Just found out why - this Dr. Emoto doesn't have a PhD - he's not a physicist. He has a certificate from an open university as a "doctor" of alternative medicine.
 
Jeremy said:
the scientists involved in this project seem to think that thoughts can have an effect on the quantum level, leading to different formations of ice.
The word "quantum" has become synonymous with "magic". It can now be used to conjure with.
 
zoobyshoe said:
The word "quantum" has become synonymous with "magic". It can now be used to conjure with.

I always knew witches were physicists... :-p
 
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hey I've heard that Emoto refuses to do a double blind test, this really makes his work hard to take seriously. I am not a scientist as such and was wondering if there are reasons why people won't do double blinds? I've got to talk about him soon and defend his work, help!
 
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azalea said:
Ive got to talk about him soon and defend his work, help!
So, why do you have to defend his work?
 
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