What's the highest spin known?

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The discussion revolves around the highest known spin of particles, both theoretical and experimentally observed. Participants explore the spin values of elementary particles, composite systems, and the implications of theoretical frameworks like the Weinberg-Witten theorem.

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  • One participant inquires about the highest spin known for particles, referencing an older source that mentions a spin of 11/2.
  • Another participant states that for elementary particles in the Standard Model, the highest spin is 1 for particles like photons and gluons, while the theorized graviton has spin 2.
  • A different participant mentions that composite systems can achieve higher spins through angular momentum addition, citing the ability to excite nuclei up to about 80 units of angular momentum.
  • One participant defines spin as the angular momentum of an object in its rest frame, using a spinning tennis ball as an example.
  • In the absence of supersymmetry, a participant claims that the highest possible spin for an elementary particle is 2, referring to the graviton and the Weinberg-Witten theorem.
  • Another participant questions whether the Weinberg-Witten theorem applies only to massless particles, which is confirmed by subsequent replies.
  • A participant notes that a macroscopic magnet could have spins on the order of 10^23 due to the addition of many electronic spins, and suggests that the 11/2 spin corresponds to the dysprosium 3+ ion.
  • One participant clarifies that the theorem discussed pertains to helicity rather than spin.

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Participants express differing views on the highest spin values, particularly regarding the distinction between elementary and composite particles, as well as the implications of the Weinberg-Witten theorem. No consensus is reached on the highest spin known.

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The discussion includes references to theoretical frameworks and specific particles, but lacks clarity on the definitions and assumptions regarding spin and angular momentum in different contexts.

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What's the highest spin known??

So what's the highest number of spin for a particle, both theoretical and actually found??. And what particle has it??. I read in the Cohen Tannoujdi (it's pretty old, that's why I'm asking) that there's up to 11/2. To which particle this correspond??. Thanks
 
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I think for the elementary particles in the Standard Model, the highest spin is...1 for the photon, gluons, and W and Z bosons. The theorized graviton has spin 2. All known elementary fermions are spin 1/2.

Composite systems; however, can have higher spin just by angular momentum addition.
 


You can excite nuclei up to about 80 units of angular momentum, although above perhaps 70 they tend to start to fission.
 


Spin is the angular momentum of an object in it's rest frame. So a spinning tennis ball will easily outperform all examples from nuclear or elementary physics.
 


In the absence of supersymmetry, the highest possible spin for an elementary particle can be 2, the theorized graviton. The theorem of Weinberg & Witten clarifies this.

EDIT: Only massless particles/fields.
 
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Doesn't Weinberg-Witten apply only to massless particles?
 


A bit trivially, a macroscopic magnet would have spins of the order of 10^23 or so. Just addition of many electronic spins.
Otherwise I think the 11/2 spin is for the dysprosium 3+ ion.
 


dextercioby said:
Indeed, it's for massless particles.

Then it is a theorem on helicity, not spin.
 

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