What's the limit of this function?

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The problem involves finding the limit of the function ln(1+2x)-ln7 divided by x-3 as x approaches 3. The subject area pertains to limits and logarithmic functions.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to manipulate the limit expression using logarithmic properties and substitutions. Some participants suggest applying L'Hôpital's rule as a potential method. Others discuss the implications of variable substitutions and the correct use of parentheses in expressions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods and providing hints. There is acknowledgment of the original poster's approach, and some guidance has been offered regarding variable substitution and the application of L'Hôpital's rule.

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Participants note the importance of correctly changing variables and the potential confusion around the use of logarithmic properties. There is also a mention of the original poster's uncertainty with L'Hôpital's rule.

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Homework Statement



Find limit of x --> 3 of

ln(1+2x)-ln7
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x-3

Homework Equations



The properties of log?

The Attempt at a Solution



= ln ((1+2x)/7)^(1/x-3)

then make h=x-3; x=h+3

limit as h --> 0

= ln ((1 + 2h + 6)/7) ^ (1/x-3)
= ln ((7 + 2h)/7) ^ (1/x-3)
= ln (1 + 2/7h)^(1/x-3)

then I did it the non-algebraic way and plugged in 0.01 and got 0.2587 as the answer, which is coincidentally 2/7 (this number is found in the equation also)! But how do I prove/arrive at that? I do remember that (1+h)^(1/h) = e. But what do I do now?

Help is appreciated and many thanks.
 
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Hi lillybeans! :smile:

Isn't the easiest thing to apply l'hospital's rule on

\lim_{x\rightarrow 3}{\frac{ln\left(\frac{1+2x}{7}\right)}{x-3}}
 
lillybeans said:
limit as h --> 0

= ln ((1 + 2h + 6)/7) ^ (1/x-3)
= ln ((7 + 2h)/7) ^ (1/x-3)
= ln (1 + 2/7h)^(1/x-3)
It would help if you changed all of your x's to h's. (And a nitpick -- it would help if you used parentheses correctly in the denominator of the fraction of your exponent)

I do remember that (1+h)^(1/h) = e. But what do I do now?
That's almost what you have already, isn't it?
 
Your method could work too, actually. Just put u=(2/7)h and see what the substitution gives you...
 
Hurkyl said:
It would help if you changed all of your x's to h's. (And a nitpick -- it would help if you used parentheses correctly in the denominator of the fraction of your exponent)


That's almost what you have already, isn't it?

Ahhh right, I'm sorry, I forgot to change the exponent for some reason, when I did it on paper I DID change 1/x-3 to 1/h.

@ Micromass: Thank you for your help! I'm not too familiar with l'hopital's rule but I will look it up. Also, thank you for the hint! I guess I didn't think of substituting variables TWICE (first h, now u) :)
 

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