What's the start speed and acceleration of the ball?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining the initial speed and acceleration of a ball moving up a slant board, given its position at two different times. The context is kinematics, specifically dealing with uniformly accelerated motion.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the setup of equations based on the ball's position at specific times and express uncertainty about the correctness of the second equation. There is an exploration of how to manipulate the equations to express initial speed in terms of acceleration.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problem by suggesting the subtraction of equations to isolate variables. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of negative acceleration and its relation to the motion of the ball on the incline.

Contextual Notes

Participants are questioning the assumptions behind the equations used, particularly regarding the signs of acceleration and initial speed. There is a mention of the expected values for speed and acceleration, which may not align with the derived results.

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Homework Statement


Using slant board, the ball was forced to move from bottom to the top. The ball was at the distance of 0.3 meters twice: after 1 and 2 seconds after start moving. What's the start speed and acceleration of the ball? (a=const)

Homework Equations


[tex]\newline x = x_0 + V_0*t + \frac{a*t^2}{2}[/tex]
x₀ = 0 m
V₀ = 0 m/s
l = 0.3 m
t₁ = 1 s
t₂ = 2 s

The Attempt at a Solution


[tex]0.3 = 0 + V_0*1 + \frac{a*1^2}{2}[/tex]

[tex]\newline 0.3 = 0 + V_0*2 + \frac{a*2^2}{2}[/tex]
Here I can express, V₀. But I'm not sure the second expression is right. What's wrong?
 
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Hi Ockonal, welcome to PF.
Your second expression is correct.
Now subtract first equation from the second equation. You will get Vo in terms of a.
Put it in the first equation to find a. Substitute this value in the second equation to get Vo.
 


rl.bhat said:
Hi Ockonal, welcome to PF.
Your second expression is correct.
Now subtract first equation from the second equation. You will get Vo in terms of a.
Put it in the first equation to find a. Substitute this value in the second equation to get Vo.
Oh, thanks.
 


Okay, I did the job:

[tex]0.3 = V_0 + \frac{a}{2}[/tex]
[tex]0.3 = 2*V_0 + 2*a[/tex]
=>
[tex]V_0 = 0.3 - \frac{a}{2}[/tex]
[tex]0.3 = 2*(0.3 - \frac{a}{2}) + 2*a[/tex]
[tex]0.3 = 0.6 + a;[/tex]
[tex]a = -0.3 (m/s^2)[/tex]
[tex]V_0 = 0.3 - \frac{a}{2};[/tex]
[tex]V_0 = 0.15 (m/s)[/tex]

The questions are:
Why the acceleration is negative? I think something is wrong in the first formulas.
The start speed is 0.45 m/s (refer to the answers), the acceleration is right (0.3)
 


The acceleration is negative because the ball is moving up the inclined plane.
Vo = 0.3 - a/2 = 0.3 - (- 0.3/2) = 0.3 + 0.15 = 0.45 m/s
 
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