The discussion revolves around the concept of work done when lifting an object a distance and then lowering it back to its original position. Participants explore the relationship between distance traveled, displacement, and the definition of work in physics.
Participants do not reach a consensus on the nature of work done in this scenario. Some maintain that the work is zero due to net displacement, while others challenge this view and seek further understanding.
There are varying interpretations of the term "work," with some relying on layman definitions and others adhering to the physicist's definition, which may lead to confusion and differing conclusions.
Chestermiller said:0
What are your thoughts on this? How much work do you do on the weight while raising it? How much work do you do on the weight while allowing it to be lowered? What are the directions of the forces you apply while raising and lowering, and what are the corresponding directions of the displacements? How do the directions of the forces compare with the directions of the displacements?Majestic247 said:Why is this so?
Chestermiller said:What are your thoughts on this? How much work do you do on the weight while raising it? How much work do you do on the weight while allowing it to be lowered? What are the directions of the forces you apply while raising and lowering, and what are the corresponding directions of the displacements? How do the directions of the forces compare with the directions of the displacements?
Chet
There are several different dictionary definitions of the word "work," and only one of these is the mathematically precise definition that physicists use to calculate the quantity they call "work." In physics, the work is positive if the force and the displacement are in the same direction, and negative if the force and displacement are in opposite directions. So, if you exert a force upward to move a weight upward, the work you do is positive. If you are exerting a force upward and the weight is moving downward, the work you do is negative (the weight is actually doing work on you). In both cases, according to a layman, you have done a net amount of work, but, according to the physicist's definition, the net amount of work you have done is zero.Majestic247 said:I do the same work on raising and lowering the weight. My thought was that since a work is done to raise it up a distance x and then bring it down a distance x it should be doubled, however my father said that the displacement is overall 0 so the work it did was zero but I still can't understand why this is so.