What's with all these nonsense trophies?

[strangerep]

I presume some of these "trophies" are system--generated? Some of mine are just silly. (Actually, most of them are silly, just in different degrees.)

Is there a way to delete one's trophies?

 

[phinds]

Yeah I agree, and you'll also notice that the "thanks", which had some meaning and a place to insert a comment, have become "like" with no comments or meaning. Sad to say but I think PF is trending towards a social media forum :(

 

[adjacent]

I think 'like' should be renamed to 'thanks' again.

 

[phinds]

I think 'like' should be renamed to 'thanks' again.

But if the comment area is left out, it's still just social media stuff, although I agree "thanks" would be better than "like". I REALLY hate that "like" since it smacks so totally of social media. "Like" was discussed here long before the move and it was roundly denounced, as well it should have been, and for for the very reason I state.

 

[Nikitin]

Just because it "smacks of social media stuff" doesn't mean it's bad. In essence, like is an improved version of thanks because now you can quickly identify the quality posts, so just try to look past your biases and focus on the functionality.

 

[phinds]

Just because it "smacks of social media stuff" doesn't mean it's bad. In essence, like is an improved version of thanks because now you can quickly identify the quality posts, so just try to look past your biases and focus on the functionality.

I disagree. It IS bad. It's a meaningless social media thing. It was discussed here previously and that was the consensus, so it's not just me (although I certainly recognize that at least some people agree w/ you). I think "like" in social media is totally frivolous and I hate to see PF going in that direction.

 

[DataGG]

I agree that "thanks" would be better than "like". I at-least have been liking posts as if I was thanking them. But meh, it's not a big deal.

 

[cristo]

I think "like" in social media is totally frivolous and I hate to see PF going in that direction.

It's really not - it either means that you agree with what is posted, or you are thankful for the helpful comments made. So, really, it's more general than the "thanks" that we had previously.

 

[Fredrik]

I don't mind the "like" feature, but I don't view it as a replacement for the "thanks" feature. This will be used in a different way. "Like" is a quick way to just say "I agree with this", "I find this useful", "I find this funny", "Good job", etc. It will usually be clear from the context what a "like" means. (If it's not going to be clear, then you should type a reply instead of just clicking "like"). In other forums, I've seen people quote a post in its entirety and just type "+1". I think "like" is a much better option than that.

I don't want the "like" feature renamed to "thanks" unless we also make it so that we can type in a message. I wouldn't mind if it's a public message. For example, the message could be shown when you put your mouse pointer over the person's name.

I couldn't resist the temptation to click "like" on phinds's posts above. :)

 

[Borek]

I couldn't resist the temptation to click "like" on phinds's posts above.

I couldn't resist the temptation to click "like" on Fredrik's posts above.

 

[mesa]

I agree the comment portion should be left in, the 'designation' seems unimportant.

 

[phinds]

I couldn't resist the temptation to click "like" on Fredrik's posts above.

I resisted the temptation to click like on either one :)

 

[Evo]

I think the trophies are funny. I want more. The likes on posts, I see them on my profile, but until they were mentioned in this thread, I hadn't even noticed that you could see them on a post, I guess a lot of people won't notice them. So, if you aren't interested, just ignore them. We're not rating posts, at least not right now, so it doesn't matter.

Edit, Uhm, Phinds, where's my like?

 

[Vanadium 50]

If Greg keeps changing the emeritus badge, though, I'm going to have to keep changing my avatar.

 

[Evo]

If Greg keeps changing the emeritus badge, though, I'm going to have to keep changing my avatar.

I thought you'd gone into mourning. :( We need our old smilies back.

 

[KL7AJ]

I presume some of these "trophies" are system--generated? Some of mine are just silly. (Actually, most of them are silly, just in different degrees.)

Is there a way to delete one's trophies?

You can redeem them for valuable monetary rewards!

 

[256bits]

Like could be changed to something to give it more flair, like laitn,
maximus licimus

 

[dextercioby]

Trophies called or otherwise, just means to keep your contributions noted and in a visibile and quantifiable way rewarded.

This IS a privately owned, well managed, tightly and accurately moderated social network, a classy act on the internet. Turning 'thanks' into 'like' is a way to show that you LIKE how and what that person wrote, not only that you thank him/her for homework help or giving you a piece of information, so it's an extension of a nice feature, not a diminishing of importance.

 

[phinds]

Trophies called or otherwise, just means to keep your contributions noted and in a visibile and quantifiable way rewarded.

This IS a privately owned, well managed, tightly and accurately moderated social network, a classy act on the internet. Turning 'thanks' into 'like' is a way to show that you LIKE how and what that person wrote, not only that you thank him/her for homework help or giving you a piece of information, so it's an extension of a nice feature, not a diminishing of importance.

Although I completely agree w/ you that PF is a class act, I do NOT agree at all that it is a "social network", at least not in the way that I normally hear that term used. Witness the ban on social network "crap-speak" (as opposed to spelled out proper English), foul language, disrespecting other members, etc. I think it would be better described as a sociable physics forum, not at all a "social network" and I continue to disagree w/ the appropriateness of "like" rather than "thanks" with room for a comment. I understand that some will not share my thoughts on the meaning of "social network" and I DO see that it is open to interpretation that let's the PF in, I just hate the idea :)

 

[Greg Bernhardt]

I do NOT agree at all that it is a "social network"

Like it or not, message boards and forums are the original social networks :)

 

[phinds]

Like it or not, message boards and forums are the original social networks :)

Hm ... well I guess I just think of that term, apparently incorrectly, differently than I think of PF. I think of facebook and twitter and things like that, none of which I am on, as social networks. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[jtbell]

The originals were:

Dialup bulletin board systems (BBS's, which led to Compuserve, AOL, et al.)
Usenet newgroups
Listservs (e-mail discussion groups)

I remember when Web-based forums started to spread and people (including me) complained about how slow their graphical interfaces were (on the low-bandwidth connections of the mid 1990s) compared to the text-only Usenet newsreaders that ran on the Unix command line. 'rn' and 'trn', anyone?

 

[Borek]

BBS times? I had BBS in the kitchen, Fido point 2:480/25.

Anyone knows what "Ctrl-H - IQ test" meant? ;)

 

[Borg]

I think the trophies are funny. I want more...

If they're going to be there, they should work.
RE: First Responder and By the book!

I'm guessing that the first one is due to the troubles that Greg is having with getting the links to work. I'll let you know when I am the first responder to 6 more posts since the switch on Friday. :p
The second one doesn't seem to work at all. I've visited the guidelines page several times since Friday just to see if I could get this trophy and haven't been successful.

It's also impossible from some of the definitions what the trigger is for a trophy.
RE: High School Debate Team
Members generally like what you have to say

Is there some hidden poll being taken on our posts that I haven't heard of?

 

[Greg Bernhardt]

Is there some hidden poll being taken on our posts that I haven't heard of?

I'll go through and explain a little better. The debate team is a message to like ratio. I'll look into By the book.

 

[Borg]

The debate team is a message to like ratio.

I wouldn't want to have to code that one. I doubt that it will be as simple as it sounds.

 

[phinds]

Co-incidentally to my posts in this thread, I just received from a friend a cartoon that beautifully exemplifies my attitude about what I consider to be "social media" (but in which category I do not include PF)

 

[phinds]

Edit, Uhm, Phinds, where's my like?

YOU, I really DO "like" so will make an exception. :p

 

[JCMacaw]

I couldn't resist the temptation to click "like" on phinds's posts above. :)

Same here

I prefer the 'Thanks' - with being able to leave a comment

 

[Borg]

I'll go through and explain a little better. The debate team is a message to like ratio. I'll look into By the book.

I see that you now have the "By the book" trophy. Is this the correct link?
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/physics-forums-global-guidelines.414380/

If so, it doesn't seem to work for me.

 

[TumblingDice]

Bits are being pushed in the wee hours of the morning at PF! I received an Alert at 3:40am PDT (5:40am CDT?) notifying me of my By The Book trophy! :)

 

[Borg]

Bits are being pushed in the wee hours of the morning at PF! I received an Alert at 3:40am PDT (5:40am CDT?) notifying me of my By The Book trophy! :)

Got mine as well. Looks like that's working now.
Oh no, the emoticons have multiplied! :)

 

[phinds]

Bits are being pushed in the wee hours of the morning at PF! I received an Alert at 3:40am PDT (5:40am CDT?) notifying me of my By The Book trophy! :)

Computers never sleep and Greg only rarely sleeps :D

 

[Evo]

Oh no, the emoticons have multiplied! :)

They're breeding. Why don't we have an angry smiley? We need an angry smiley.

 

[Borek]

 

[Evo]

 

[phinds]

 

[Evo]

:p

 

[dlgoff]

I like the likes and how they're are handled here. I see no need for any change.

 

[TumblingDice]

I like the likes and how they're are handled here. I see no need for any change.

I've felt positive about the likes, too. It extends the opportunity to acknowledge the quality of exceptional posts, attitudes, and other positive attributes of a post without confining it to "Thanks". This is most assuredly an added value. Also very glad to confine to Likes (no dislikes), 'cause that's just unproductive.

I would like to play a Devil's Advocate role for a moment for the purpose of hearing opinions:
My brief post #31 was a 'two-bird stone'. To report the good news to Greg and members, and my mention of pushing bits in the wee hours was a progammer-to-programmer compliment. No likes on that message, but that's O.K. - really. Posts after that enjoyed one or more likes even when exchanging only an emoticon. And I understand the friendships here and the fun y'all are having. I'm more than "OK" with that.

The PF lounge is a great area here, and I've enjoyed threads of all kinds like finding the photo contest because ZapperZ is back for it. With Random Thoughts, Jokes, Memes, Kitten threads... I see a potential for more Likes to be exchanged in the PF lounge areas than the Homework and Science areas. I feel like Mr. Scrooge dumping bah humbugs into the mix, but not true. I think the Likes should evolve how the administration and members would like/hope to see, and raising this perspective at first thought for the benefit of all and to hear your thoughts.

 

[TumblingDice]

@Evo - I see a couple of Likes from you, and feel good that you felt those posts were deserving of such acknowledgment.

Yet no reply? :(

Your opinion(s) are most welcome, dare I say encouraged?

 

[Evo]

Yet no reply? :(

I'm on the phone, but wanted you to know you have my support. :)

 

[jtbell]

They're breeding. Why don't we have an angry smiley? We need an angry smiley.

We need a facepalm smiley.

 

[jz92wjaz]

I like the addition of the like button, but I also miss the satisfaction of collecting thanks by helping people with homework. It would be nice if we could have both.

 

[DataGG]

I like the addition of the like button, but I also miss the satisfaction of collecting thanks by helping people with homework. It would be nice if we could have both.

I think both would make everything complicated..

 

[Monique]

Yeah I agree, and you'll also notice that the "thanks", which had some meaning and a place to insert a comment, have become "like" with no comments or meaning. Sad to say but I think PF is trending towards a social media forum :(

Funny you say that, as mentioned PF has always been a social medium. I've never understood why people dislike likes, it's proven to improve the community feel. If you dislike a post, then reply to it to explain what is wrong.

 

[Rocket50]

If we were to reintroduce "Thanks", I'd say we still do keep "Like". In the old Physics Forums version, whenever I saw a post I agreed with, I was tempted to hit the "Thanks" button. However, I stopped as it was mostly for the person who asked the question. With "Like", I can say I agree/like a post even though I didn't ask the question.

 

[Greg Bernhardt]

If we were to reintroduce "Thanks",

I'm sorry this is not an option. It doesn't exist.

 

[Borg]

I'm curious as to how some of the trophies work. I'm seeing a lot of people who have been on the forum for a day or two and have trophies that most people who have been here for years don't have like The Senator. Even Greg and Evo don't have that. I suspect that some are calculated as a percentage of a variable over the number of posts such that only new members could ever achieve them. But that's a guess since they aren't well defined. Here's an actual list of trophies that one member has that has been on the site for a single day:

1. 30
   Awarded: Yesterday at 6:40 AM
   The lobbyist
   You can make anyone agree with you
2. 20
   Awarded: Yesterday at 6:40 AM
   The Senator
   Wow you have quite some influence now
3. 12
   Awarded: Yesterday at 6:40 AM
   College Debate Team
   People are starting to really listen
4. 4
   Awarded: Yesterday at 6:40 AM
   High School Debate Team
   Members generally like what you have to say
5. 1
   Awarded: Yesterday at 1:40 AM
   First Message
   Post a message somewhere on the site to receive this.

So 5 hours after their first post, they've got 67 trophy points with 3 posts and 3 likes?

Another one that confuses me is The Regular. I'm on PF every day though I may not always post something. I guess I'm not that kind of regular?

 

[RonL]

I'm curious as to how some of the trophies work. I'm seeing a lot of people who have been on the forum for a day or two and have trophies that most people who have been here for years don't have like The Senator. Even Greg and Evo don't have that. I suspect that some are calculated as a percentage of a variable over the number of posts such that only new members could ever achieve them. But that's a guess since they aren't well defined. Here's an actual list of trophies that one member has that has been on the site for a single day:

1. 30
   Awarded: Yesterday at 6:40 AM
   The lobbyist
   You can make anyone agree with you
2. 20
   Awarded: Yesterday at 6:40 AM
   The Senator
   Wow you have quite some influence now
3. 12
   Awarded: Yesterday at 6:40 AM
   College Debate Team
   People are starting to really listen
4. 4
   Awarded: Yesterday at 6:40 AM
   High School Debate Team
   Members generally like what you have to say
5. 1
   Awarded: Yesterday at 1:40 AM
   First Message
   Post a message somewhere on the site to receive this.

So 5 hours after their first post, they've got 67 trophy points with 3 posts and 3 likes?

Another one that confuses me is The Regular. I'm on PF every day though I may not always post something. I guess I'm not that kind of regular?

I'm replying because I saw the same thing , 3 likes on two post must be a percentage thing.
You have to say, those cute glasses on a bunny looks pretty nifty