When Do Kc and Kp Equal Each Other?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the conditions under which the equilibrium constants Kc and Kp for a chemical reaction are equal. Participants explore various scenarios related to the states of reactants and products, as well as the implications of temperature on these constants.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that Kc and Kp will always equal each other under specific conditions, listing five scenarios involving the states and moles of gaseous reactants and products.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about the correctness of the listed conditions, particularly questioning the first condition regarding all reactants and products being gases.
  • A different participant suggests that the equilibrium constant is only affected by temperature changes, implying that the addition of reactants or products does not alter the equilibrium constant.
  • One participant hints at a potential answer involving the relationship Kp = Kc(RT)^{delta n}, suggesting a mathematical approach to understanding the equality of Kc and Kp.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the conditions under which Kc and Kp are equal, with multiple competing views and uncertainties expressed regarding the correctness of the initial claims.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions regarding the states of matter and the definitions of Kc and Kp may be missing, and the discussion does not resolve the mathematical relationship between the two constants.

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The two equilibrium constants for the same reaction Kc and Kp will always equal one another when:

1) all of the reactant and products are gases
2) In the reaction equation, the number of moles of gaseous product is smaller than the number of moles of gaseous reactants.
3) In the reaction equation, the number of moles of gaseous product is greater than the number of moles of gaseous reactants.
4) In the reaction equation, to total number of moles of reactants equal that of the products
5) in the reaction equation, the number of moles of gaseous products equals the number of gaseous reactants.

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above is the question..
I thought that the equilibrium constant changes only when temperature is added
to the system. No matter how much products or reactant you add to the system
the equilibrium constant will stay the same (the actual concentration changes,
adjusting to have same equilibrium constant as before)

None of the answer choices looks correct. I' pretty sure that #1 is wrong, but
other stuff I'm all confused. Please help!
 
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Can anyone help me with this?
 
never mind I think i have the answer
 
Did it involve finding when this equality must be true? Kp = Kc(RT)^{delta n}
 

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