When do the park brakes need to be applied=f(critical inclined angle)

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The discussion revolves around the conditions under which parking brakes need to be applied for a vehicle on an inclined plane, specifically in relation to the critical angle of inclination. Participants explore the implications of static and dynamic friction in this context, considering both theoretical and practical aspects of vehicle stability on slopes.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that the braking force at the critical angle is determined by static friction, while beyond this angle, dynamic friction applies.
  • Another participant argues that there is no precise distinction between being "at" the critical angle and "just beyond" it, suggesting that applying parking brakes is advisable for safety regardless of the angle.
  • A different viewpoint claims that parking brakes alone will not prevent a vehicle from sliding down a slope if the angle exceeds the critical angle, emphasizing that brakes may only prevent rolling at smaller angles.
  • One participant seeks clarification on whether tire slip is maximized at the critical angle, suggesting that static friction applies at this point and dynamic friction takes over beyond it, questioning if this understanding is correct.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of parking brakes at the critical angle and beyond, with no consensus reached on the necessity of applying them at specific angles. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the precise mechanics of tire slip and friction behavior.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the lack of exact measurements in physics, which may complicate the discussion of critical angles. Assumptions regarding tire conditions and coefficients of friction are also noted but not fully explored.

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The coefficient of static friction is defined at the critical/Maximum inclination angle at which the block "begins" to slide. Hence, for a vehicle on an inclined plane at this critical angle, the braking force at this critical angle is given by:
i.e [tex]F_{braking}=\mu_{static} N[/tex] at [itex]\theta _{max}[/itex]

For anything beyond[itex]i.e >\theta_{max}[/itex] the braking force is given as
[tex]F_{braking}=\mu_{dynamic} N[/tex]

Obviously,at any angle below the critical angle, the vehicle "park brakes" need not be applied because the vehicle will not move.

My question: Will the "park brakes" need to be applied AT the critical angle or BEYOND the critical angle?

Assumption:
Both the front and rear tires are on a the road with same coefficients of friction.
 
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There is no such thing as an exact angular measurement in physics. Accordingly, there is no detectable difference between "at the critical angle" and "just beyond the critical angle".

If you want assurance that your car will not roll into the lake, apply the parking brakes.
 
The brakes (parking or regular) will not prevent the car sliding down the slope.
If the angle of the slope is larger than the critical angle for the given road conditions, the car will slide down even with the brakes on.
Putting the brakes prevents rolling, which will I suppose will start at a much smaller angle.
These formulas are not quite relevant for something rolling on wheels.
 
Nasu,jbriggs:
Now,the concept of the critical friction angle is more clear.Its the angle at which the object starts to slide down.
Q:Would I be right in stating that the "tire slip" (otherwise called as flex of the rubber) would be maximum just at the point of the critical angle and lessens out once the car starts sliding? <=>because the static friction acts just at the point of the critical angle and dynamic friction acts at angles BEYOND i.e since [itex]\mu_{static}> \mu_{dynamic}[/itex].(Am I right?)
 

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