When does a Particle Come to Rest and Reach Maximum Velocity During Oscillation?

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The discussion revolves around a particle oscillating about a fixed point, described by the equation x=3sin(2t) + 2cos(2t) -2. Participants are tasked with finding the particle's velocity, the time it first comes to rest, and its maximum velocity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss finding the velocity by differentiating the position equation and express confusion about the lack of a specific time value affecting the velocity. There is an attempt to determine when the particle comes to rest by setting the velocity equation to zero. Some participants suggest using trigonometric identities and relationships to solve for time. The concept of using the second derivative to find maximum velocity is also mentioned, though uncertainty remains about its application.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring various methods to find the time when the particle comes to rest and how to determine maximum velocity. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of derivatives and plugging values back into the original equation, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or solution.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is also a noted confusion regarding the initial conditions and the implications of the variable time in the velocity equation.

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Homework Statement



A particle oscillates about a fixed point. Its distance, x(m) from the origin is given by the equation x=3sin(2t) + 2cos(2t) -2.

Find

i) its velocity,
ii) where it first comes to rest,
iii) its maximum velocity.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



Well firstly dx/dt = v
∴ v = 6cos(2t) - 4sin(2t)

For i) The velocity is just found out by placing a value of T into the above equation. I'm confused as to why no value of t has been stated as the velocity is changing depending on what value of t is used.

For ii) It comes to rest when v=0
So 6cos(2t) - 4cos(2t) = 0 A=2T

Rcos(A-B) = RcosAcosB - RsinAsinB

Comparing coefficents of cosA and SinA,

RcosB= 6 RsinB= 4

RsinB/RcosB = TanB
B = tan^-1 4/6 = 0.588 rads = B

If RsinB = 4 ...R(sin 0.588) = 4
R= 7.21

7.21(cos(A-0.588) = 6cos(2t) - 4sin(2t) = 0
7.21(cos(A-0.588)) = 0 A=2t
Cos = 0 at pi/2 and 3pi/2 so Cos(2t-0.588) = 0
2t-0.588 = pi/2
2t= 2.159
t= 1.080

If I put that back into the equation, it doesn't equal 0 which means I must have gone wrong somewhere.

iii) max velocity, I assume I need to take the derivative again and plug in values of t to see which produces a maximum i.e <0
 
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steve2510 said:

Homework Statement


A particle ossilattes about a fixed point. Its distance, x(m) from the origin is given by the equation
x=3sin(2t) + 2cos(2t) -2
Find i) its velocity
ii) where it first comes to rest
iii) its maximum velocity

Homework Equations




The Attempt at a Solution


Well firstly dx/dt = v
∴ v = 6cos(2t) - 4sin(2t)
For i) The velocity is just found out by placing a value of T into the above equation, I am confused as to why no value of t has been stated as the velocity is changing depending on what value of t is used.
For ii) It comes to rest when v=0
So 6cos(2t) - 4cos(2t) = 0

It is 6cos(2t) - 4sin(2t)=0 instead. Which means 4sin(2t)=6cos(2t), that is tan(2t)=1.5


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Okay, I can't believe I didn't see that, so at that time, it comes to rest. To find where it comes to rest, I guess I plug that t back into the orignal equation.

Then to find the maximum value of velocity hmm? I'm reading maximum, so I'm thinking second derivative, but I'm not sure how that helps.
 
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steve2510 said:
Okay can't believe i didnt see that, so at that time it comes to rest to find where it comes to rest i guess i plug that t back into the orignal equation
Yeah, use your value of t to find x(t), the position of the particle at time t.

steve2510 said:
Then to find the maximum value of velocity hmm? I am reading maximum so I am thinking second deriavitve but I am not sure how that helps
You've probably done it a lot of times before. Find the roots of dv/dt (solutions to dv/dt = 0) to find values of t that gives maxima/minima of v.
 

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