When is the velocity of a particle zero while acceleration is also zero?

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The discussion revolves around the motion of a particle described by a given position function. Participants are exploring the relationship between velocity and acceleration, particularly in scenarios where both may be zero.

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  • Participants discuss the conditions under which velocity and acceleration can both be zero, questioning the implications of acceleration being zero while velocity is not necessarily zero. There is also a focus on interpreting the position function and its implications for velocity and acceleration.

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Some participants have provided insights into the nature of one-dimensional motion and the distinction between velocity and speed. There is an ongoing exploration of the mathematical relationships involved, with attempts to solve for specific values of velocity and acceleration. Guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the equations and the need to solve for specific conditions.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the definitions of velocity and acceleration, as well as the interpretation of the position function. Participants are also navigating the constraints of the problem as posed in a homework context.

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Homework Statement



The motion of a particle is described by the position function

s=((1/3)t^3)-(29t) - (1296/t), t>=1,
where t is the time in seconds and s is the displacement in metres

a) What is the velocity when acceleration is zero?
b) Find the displacement when v = 68m/s
c) When is the acceleration -90m/s^2?

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



a) Well, if the velocity is ((t^2)-(29)+(1296t^-2), and the acceleration is (2t^4 - 2592)/t^3, then wouldn't the velocity be 0 when acceleration is 0?

b) v(68)= 4595

c)-90 = (2t^4 - 2592)/t^3 ? (Doesnt seem to work)

I know I am doing something terribly wrong
 
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Hi DontEvenTry, welcome to PF!:smile:

Position, velocity, and acceleration are usually vectors; before we proceed, are you sure the position is given as the scalar function you've written above and not as a vector?
 
gabbagabbahey, I would interpret this as "one-dimensional" motion. The only distinction between "velocity" and "speed" in one dimension is that velocity can be negative (and this clearly can, for example, v(1) is negative) while speed is always non-negative.

DontEvenTry said:

Homework Statement



The motion of a particle is described by the position function

s=((1/3)t^3)-(29t) - (1296/t), t>=1,
where t is the time in seconds and s is the displacement in metres

a) What is the velocity when acceleration is zero?
b) Find the displacement when v = 68m/s
c) When is the acceleration -90m/s^2?

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



a) Well, if the velocity is ((t^2)-(29)+(1296t^-2), and the acceleration is (2t^4 - 2592)/t^3, then wouldn't the velocity be 0 when acceleration is 0?
Why would you think that? Surely you don't think "acceleration 0" means "sitting still". A car going at a constant speed of 90 mph has "acceleration 0". You are correct that the acceleration is (2t^4- 2592)/t^3. Now solve (2t^4- 2592)/t^3= 0 and put that value of t into the formula for v.

b) v(68)= 4595
? The problem did not ask for v, it asked for "displacement"- the distance moved. Since v= dx/dt, [itex]x= \int v dt[/itex].

c)-90 = (2t^4 - 2592)/t^3 ? (Doesnt seem to work)
Why not? This is the same as -90t^3= 2t^4- 2592 or 2t^4+ 90t^3- 2592. Solve that. (Hint: it has a simple integer solution.)

I know I am doing something terribly wrong
Yes, you are giving up too easily- that's terribly wrong!
How do I know there is a "simple integer root"? I tried. Since cubics and quartics can be horrible to solve in general, I guessed (hoped) that there was a simple integer root and just tried putting integer values into the formula.
 
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Alright, for a) i got 71m/s
b) 272m
c) 3sec
 

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