When is friction and weight parallel positive and negative?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding the signs associated with forces in the context of net force equations, particularly in scenarios involving inclines and horizontal surfaces. The original poster seeks clarification on when to assign positive or negative signs to friction and weight components.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the flexibility in defining positive and negative directions for forces, particularly in inclined scenarios. Questions arise regarding the implications of these choices on the signs of weight components and friction.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging in the discussion, with some suggesting that the assignment of signs is a matter of choice based on the defined coordinate system. There is an acknowledgment of the relationship between normal force and weight components, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on the need for balance between forces, particularly the normal force and weight components, as well as the potential variability in definitions based on individual setups.

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Homework Statement



When writing Fnet=ma you are supposed to list the forces in Fnet
-Ffriction + Weightparallel= ma

how do you know when to put the negative or positve sign in front of the values? like on inclines and horizontal surfaces

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You get to choose which direction is positive and which is negative. Typically, for inclines you choose axes that are aligned with the incline, and the direction down the ramp is most often negative, but you can choose down the ramp to be positive and up to be negative just as well.
 
JaWiB said:
You get to choose which direction is positive and which is negative. Typically, for inclines you choose axes that are aligned with the incline, and the direction down the ramp is most often negative, but you can choose down the ramp to be positive and up to be negative just as well.

ok so if a box is going down an incline, friction can be positive, but then weight parallel and weight perpendicular have to be negative right?
 
Weight parallel has to be negative, yes, but why does the perpendicular weight have to be negative? You can define it as positive if you want.
 
ideasrule said:
Weight parallel has to be negative, yes, but why does the perpendicular weight have to be negative? You can define it as positive if you want.

yeah your right. It depends if you make the normal force positive. They have to balance each other out. I understand now. thank you so much for your help, it was great :)
 

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