When Should Physics Students Use Eigenvectors?

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The discussion centers on the application of eigenvectors and eigenvalues in physics, particularly in identifying situations where their use is appropriate. Participants explore the contexts in which these mathematical concepts arise, including linear transformations and differential equations.

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  • One participant expresses uncertainty about when to use eigenvectors and eigenvalues in their studies, seeking general guidance on identifying such situations.
  • Another participant suggests that equations of the form "Matrix x Vector = Scalar x Vector" or "Operator x Function = Scalar x Function" indicate the need to find eigenvalues.
  • A further contribution mentions the simplification of linear transformations using eigenvectors, noting the potential use of generalized eigenvectors when a complete set is not available.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on specific situations for using eigenvectors, but they provide various contexts and forms of equations where these concepts may apply.

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The discussion does not clarify the assumptions underlying the use of eigenvectors and eigenvalues, nor does it address the mathematical steps involved in their application.

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I'm a physics major. As such, I have come across several situations in my studies that require the use of eigenvectors and eigenvalues. Whenever I have to use this method, I've been told to. I do not have a complete understanding of eigenvectors and values and am wondering how you would spot a situation where you would need to use them.

For example, if I wanted to know when or where the rate of change of something was 0, I would take a derivative, set it equal to zero, then solve for some variable. What sort of situation would I look for (in general) that would make me say "Hey! I need to find some eigenvectors here."?

Thanks.
 
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In general, if you have an equation of the form
Matrix x Vector = Scalar x Vector​
or
Operator x Function = Scalar x Function​
The "Scalar" is an eigenvalue that you must find.
 
Also you can "simplify" linear transformations, writing them as matrices in either diagonal or Jordan normal form, with eigenvalues on the diagonal, by using the eigenvectors (or if there is not a complete set of eigenvectors, the "generalized" eigenvectors) as basis for the vector space.
 
Thanks guys. This helps.
 

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