Where Are the Terminals on a Colpitts Oscillator?

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The discussion centers around the construction and operation of a Colpitts oscillator for an experiment involving wireless energy transfer through resonantly tuned LC circuits. Participants explore the necessary connections for power and output, as well as alternative oscillator options.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on the positive and negative terminals for a Colpitts oscillator and expresses difficulty in finding this information in online resources.
  • Another participant identifies Vcc as the positive connection and the ground symbol as the negative connection in the diagrams.
  • Some participants suggest that Colpitts oscillators can be challenging to set up due to the need for precise capacitor ratios.
  • Alternatives such as crystal oscillator modules are proposed, with one participant noting their ease of use and availability.
  • There is a query about the output voltage capabilities of crystal oscillators, with responses indicating that while crystals can allow for higher voltages, the specific modules discussed output strictly 5 volts.
  • One participant mentions that 5 volts is a good starting point and suggests that amplification is possible from this level.
  • A warning is issued regarding legal regulations on transmitting frequencies, highlighting the importance of checking local laws for such experiments.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the challenges of using Colpitts oscillators and the utility of crystal oscillators, but there is no consensus on the best approach or the specifics of voltage output from different types of oscillators.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the setup of Colpitts oscillators and the output characteristics of crystal oscillators, indicating a reliance on specific configurations and components.

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I am creating an experiment to show how wireless energy can be transferred through resonantly tuned lc circuits. In order for this to work i need an oscillator. I have been told to try a colpitts oscillator. I have looked online and found a few sites showing calculators and schematics for these oscillators but I am having trouble in a few places.

http://how-to.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_build_an_oscillator_circuit

and

http://www.ekswai.com/en_cap3.htm

show the diagram but don't show where the positive and negative terminals are for the dc power into the oscillator and where the output is. Where are these things?? On the wiki page it has a diagram for a 50 MHz oscillator and I am probably looking for only a few MHz.
 
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In those diagrams, Vcc is the positive connection and the "ground" symbol (like a triangle) is the negative connection.

I wouldn't suggest a Colpitts oscillator. They are relatively hard to get going because you have to get the ratio of some capacitors right.

You could look for crystal oscillator modules around 4 MHz. These are often used on discarded boards form old computers or you can probably get one for a few dollars.

You just connect 5 volts to them and take the signal out of one of the pins. Easy.

There are some here:
http://www.futurlec.com/cgi-bin/search/search.cgi?search=crystal_oscillator&search_base=10&page_no=2
That 4.9152 MHz one would be suitable.
You need to choose one where you can listen to it in a receiver.
 
Ok thanks. But I would like to if i can get more than 5 volts out of the system. Do crystals allow you to do that?
 
baconman71 said:
Ok thanks. But I would like to if i can get more than 5 volts out of the system. Do crystals allow you to do that?

Crystals do, but these crystal oscillators do not. They are strictly 5 volts out. Colpitts oscillators using transistors are usually much weaker than this.

However 5 volts from an oscillator is a very good start and it is relatively easy to amplify from 5 volts to get a greater voltage. At least you start on a known stable frequency.

I should issue the usual warning about unwanted radiation.
Unless you have a license to transmit on these frequencies, it is illegal in most countries to do so.
Low powered, short range experiments are normally OK as long as they are not heard outside your own property. You should check on the regulations in your area.

You may be surprised at how strong the signal from one of these oscillator modules can be, especially in the same room.
 
Ok thanks! I will try the crystal oscillator then. Thanks for all the help.
 

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