Where can I find experimental data

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The discussion centers around finding experimental data on the lifetime of charged pion decay, specifically for negatively charged pions decaying into either an electron and an electron neutrino or into a muon and a muon neutrino. The scope includes inquiries about data sources and interpretations of decay probabilities and lifetimes.

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  • One participant requests information on where to find experimental data regarding the lifetime of charged pion decay.
  • Another participant suggests the Particle Data Group website as a starting point for finding charged pion data, including lifetime and branching ratios.
  • A participant questions how to extract the lifetime from the provided link, noting that they only see probabilities for each decay type and the mean lifetime for the pion.
  • Another participant explains the relationship between decay probabilities, branching ratios, and mean lifetime, introducing the concept of partial lifetimes for each decay mode and discussing the implications of competing decay processes.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the interpretation of the data or the significance of the different lifetimes discussed, indicating that multiple views remain regarding the understanding of decay rates and lifetimes.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of terms like mean lifetime and partial lifetime, as well as the implications of competing decay modes, which remain unresolved.

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Does anyone know where I can find experimental data on the life time of charged pion decay? More specifically the life time of a negatively charged pion decaying into either an electron and an electron neutrino or into a muon and a muon neutrino.
 
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Appledave said:
Does anyone know where I can find experimental data on the life time of charged pion decay? More specifically the life time of a negatively charged pion decaying into either an electron and an electron neutrino or into a muon and a muon neutrino.

The best place to start is at the Particle Data Group website at http://pdglive.lbl.gov Charged pion data, including lifetime and branching ratios, are at http://pdglive.lbl.gov/Rsummary.brl?nodein=S008&exp=Y&sub=Yr&return=MXXX005 The section references are in a link at the top RHS of that page, as well as in the pdf that you can download by following the Particle Listings link on the main PDG page.
 
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How do I get the life-time for the decay from http://pdglive.lbl.gov/Rsummary.brl?...return=MXXX005? All I could see was the probability for each type of decay and the mean life time for the pion.
 
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The probability for each decay mode is expressed in terms of the branching ratio \Gamma_i/\Gamma, where \Gamma_i is the partial decay rate for the specific process and

\Gamma = \sum_i \Gamma_i

is the total decay rate. The mean lifetime is \tau = 1/\Gamma.

It is possible to define a partial lifetime \tau_i = 1/\Gamma_i for each decay mode. This doesn't really have the same significance as a mean lifetime, because all of the decay modes compete. So whereas we can define a total half-life

\tau_{1/2} = \tau \ln 2

as the time it takes for half of the pions in a sample to decay, a quantity like

\tau_{e^+\nu_e} \ln 2

doesn't really correspond to the time it takes for half of a sample of \pi^+ to decay to positrons, since over that period of time, most of the sample will have instead decayed to muons.
 

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