Where Did I Go Wrong in Calculating Tension and Normal Force?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the tension in rope A and the normal force exerted by box B on an incline, given that each box weighs 40 lbs and the surfaces are smooth. The original poster has attempted to set up equations based on the forces acting on the system but is encountering unreasonable results.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster describes their attempts to solve for the normal force and tension using equilibrium equations but questions the validity of their results. They express confusion over the signs used in their equations and seek feedback on potential mistakes.

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Participants are engaged in clarifying the original poster's approach and reasoning. There is an indication that some guidance has been offered regarding the signs in the equations, but no consensus has been reached on the correct solution or approach.

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The original poster has noted that they are working with a system of equations and have previously calculated other forces but are now struggling with specific components. There is also a mention of a missing diagram that could provide additional context to the problem.

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Homework Statement


Each box weighs 40 lbs, the angles are measured relative to the horizontal. The surfaces are smooth (no friction). Determine the tension in rope A and the normal force exerted by box B by the incline.




Homework Equations


W = mg
ΣF_x = 0
ΣF_y = 0


The Attempt at a Solution



I found the tension of rope C and then normal force exerted on box D by setting up a system of equations.

Solved, the tension equals 15.1 lb, and the normal force exerted is 33.1 lb.

Now I'm having trouble determining the normal force of B and the tension of rope A.

Attempting the solution:
ΣF_x = 0 = 15.1*cos(45) + N*sin(70) - T_a*cos(70)
ΣF_y = 0 = -15.1*sin(45) + N*cos(70) - T_a*sin(70) - 40

Solved using systems of equations, we found the normal force to be .0015lb (unreasonable), and the tension of A to be 31.2 lb (also unreasonable?).

I can't figure out where I went wrong to get this bad answer. Anyone spot some mistakes? Thanks.
 
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Haha, yes, there is. I completely forgot to attach it. Why can't I edit my original post?

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Why can't I edit my original post?
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Hi DyslexicHobo,

DyslexicHobo said:

The Attempt at a Solution



I found the tension of rope C and then normal force exerted on box D by setting up a system of equations.

Solved, the tension equals 15.1 lb, and the normal force exerted is 33.1 lb.

Now I'm having trouble determining the normal force of B and the tension of rope A.

Attempting the solution:
ΣF_x = 0 = 15.1*cos(45) + N*sin(70) - T_a*cos(70)
ΣF_y = 0 = -15.1*sin(45) + N*cos(70) - T_a*sin(70) - 40

The tension of rope A is upwards and so I believe the corresponding term in the y equation needs to be positive to match the other terms.
 

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