Where did this step come from? Problem on series converge/divergence.

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The discussion revolves around a limit related to the convergence or divergence of a series involving factorials, specifically the expression ∞Ʃ n!/(nn) from n=1. Participants are focused on understanding a particular step in the limit evaluation process.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to clarify a transition in the limit evaluation, questioning how a specific step was derived. Some participants mention the application of L'Hospital's Rule in the context of an indeterminate form.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the reasoning behind the steps taken in the limit evaluation. There is mention of L'Hospital's Rule, but no consensus has been reached regarding the clarity of the transition between steps.

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Participants are grappling with the limit being of indeterminate form, specifically 0/0, which adds complexity to the evaluation process. There is an indication of confusion regarding the application of L'Hospital's Rule in this context.

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1. The original problem is this, but I'm just trying to figure out this one particular step!

Ʃ n!/(nn)
n=1

2. I'm at this step:

lim ln(n/n+1)/(1/n) = lnp
n→∞

BUT THEN my teacher wrote out the next step, and I'm like, "What the heck is that?!"

This is the next step:

lim [itex]\frac{\frac{1}{n/(n+1)}*\frac{(n+1)*1-n*1}{(n+1)^{2}}}{-1/n^{2}}[/itex]
n→∞

Aaaaaagh! What the heck is going on?!
How did he get to this step? O_O

I am stuck wondering how I am supposed to figure out the limit at: lim[itex]\frac{ln(n/(n+1)}{1/n}[/itex]!

=_= HELP PLEASE!
Thank you!
 
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Lo.Lee.Ta. said:
1. The original problem is this, but I'm just trying to figure out this one particular step!

Ʃ n!/(nn)
n=1

2. I'm at this step:

lim ln(n/n+1)/(1/n) = lnp
n→∞

BUT THEN my teacher wrote out the next step, and I'm like, "What the heck is that?!"

This is the next step:

lim [itex]\frac{\frac{1}{n/(n+1)}*\frac{(n+1)*1-n*1}{(n+1)^{2}}}{-1/n^{2}}[/itex]
n→∞

Aaaaaagh! What the heck is going on?!
How did he get to this step? O_O

I am stuck wondering how I am supposed to figure out the lim it at: lim[itex]\frac{ln(n/(n+1)}{1/n}[/itex]!

=_= HELP PLEASE!
Thank you!

He was applying the L'Hospital's Rule to a limit of indeterminate form 0/∞.
 
drawar said:
He was applying the L'Hospital's Rule to a limit of indeterminate form 0/∞.
##\displaystyle \lim_{n\to\,\infty} \left( \frac{\displaystyle \ln\left(\frac{n}{n+1}\right)}{\displaystyle \frac{1}{n}}
\right)\ \ ## is of the indeterminate form, 0/0 .
 
SammyS said:
##\displaystyle \lim_{n\to\,\infty} \left( \frac{\displaystyle \ln\left(\frac{n}{n+1}\right)}{\displaystyle \frac{1}{n}}
\right)\ \ ## is of the indeterminate form, 0/0 .

Oops, sorry, just ignore what I've said.
 

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