Where Do Electrons Move When Insulated Metal Spheres Are Brought Together?

Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of electrons in two insulated uncharged metal spheres, X and Y, when a negatively charged object, C, is brought near them. Participants explore the movement of electrons, the resulting charges on the spheres after contact with a finger, and the implications of these interactions. The scope includes conceptual reasoning and theoretical implications of electrostatics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that not all electrons will move to sphere Y due to repulsive forces that would push them back to sphere X.
  • There is uncertainty regarding the final charges on spheres X and Y after they are separated, with some suggesting that X becomes positively charged after being touched by a finger.
  • One participant questions the movement of electrons, suggesting they may move from the spheres to the Earth, but expresses uncertainty about the quantity of electrons transferred.
  • Participants discuss the timing of when object C is removed from the scenario, indicating a lack of clarity on this point.
  • Some participants agree that the presence of the negatively charged object C influences the distribution of electrons, but there is debate about the resulting charge on X and Y after contact with a finger.
  • There is a suggestion that after removing C, if the finger remains in contact, the spheres may become neutral, but this interpretation is contested.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the movement of electrons and the resulting charges on the spheres. There is no consensus on the final state of the charges or the specifics of electron movement.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the dependence on the timing of interactions and the influence of external charges, which may affect the outcomes discussed. There is also ambiguity regarding the definitions of terms like "touched momentarily."

asdff529
Messages
38
Reaction score
0
Suppose we have two insulated uncharged metal spheres,say X and Y, in contact with each other.A negatively charged object C is brought near X
My first question is:Do all of the electrons move to the sphere Y since electrons are free to move?
Then if X is touched momentarily with a finger,and then X and Y are separated.
My second question is:What are the charges on X and Y now?Why?
Also,what are the movement of the electrons?I mean do they move from the Earth or the sphere,or from the sphere to the Earth?Why?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
First question: no, not all of the free electrons will move. If they all bunched together on the other sphere, there would be great repulsion forces sending most of them back to X.

Second question: what do you think? We need your thoughts on what is going on.

This thread will probably be moved to the homework subforum, as your questions resemble a homework-type exercise.
 
NascentOxygen said:
First question: no, not all of the free electrons will move. If they all bunched together on the other sphere, there would be great repulsion forces sending most of them back to X.

Second question: what do you think? We need your thoughts on what is going on.

This thread will probably be moved to the homework subforum, as your questions resemble a homework-type exercise.

um...if i treat the spheres as a big thing,this 'big thing' will become positively charged as it is charged by earthing.Then when these spheres are separated,since sphere X is the one touched by the finger,it will become positively charged.But i ain't sure what the charge of Y is.
Also,the electrons,I think,will move from the spheres to the Earth as the spheres with C is at a lower potential,electrons will move from the lower potential to higher potential,which I was taught.But,again,how 'much' electrons are transferred during this process?Do we able to determine it?
 
asdff529 said:
Suppose we have two insulated uncharged metal spheres,say X and Y, in contact with each other.A negatively charged object C is brought near X
My first question is:Do all of the electrons move to the sphere Y since electrons are free to move?
Then if X is touched momentarily with a finger,and then X and Y are separated.
At what point in this sequence is body C removed from the picture?
 
NascentOxygen said:
At what point in this sequence is body C removed from the picture?

it doesn't specify at what point body C is removed from the picture
 
The scenario sounds right, as far as you described. The presence of nearby negative charge sends some electrons away from that region of X. When you touch X or Y those repelled charges can escape to earth, leaving X and Y uncharged except for an area on X directly under the influence of that field from C. What would be the polarity of the charge on that area of X near to C?

Then, what happens when you move C far away, but you keep X and Y still touching?
 
NascentOxygen said:
The scenario sounds right, as far as you described. The presence of nearby negative charge sends some electrons away from that region of X. When you touch X or Y those repelled charges can escape to earth, leaving X and Y uncharged except for an area on X directly under the influence of that field from C. What would be the polarity of the charge on that area of X near to C?

Then, what happens when you move C far away, but you keep X and Y still touching?

If C is still near the X,the space near C will have positive charge.After C is removed and my finger is still touching the sphere,the two spheres will become neutral,am I correct?
 
That would happen. But that's not what I'd understand by "touched momentarily".
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
5K
  • · Replies 73 ·
3
Replies
73
Views
6K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 22 ·
Replies
22
Views
7K
  • · Replies 36 ·
2
Replies
36
Views
6K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
3K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
2K
Replies
8
Views
12K