Where does an electron emit or absorb radiation

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The discussion revolves around the emission and absorption of radiation by electrons, particularly in the context of atomic energy levels and stationary states. The original poster is exploring concepts related to electron transitions between energy levels in atoms, specifically hydrogen, and how these transitions relate to electromagnetic radiation.

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the nature of stationary states and their relationship to energy transitions. They question whether light can be emitted at the ground state and how energy differences relate to photon energy. Other participants seek clarification on the definitions of stationary states and ground states, and the conditions under which radiation occurs.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various interpretations of stationary states and energy transitions. Some guidance has been provided regarding the nature of ground states and energy emission, but there is no explicit consensus on the definitions or implications of these concepts.

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Participants are navigating complex terminology and concepts related to quantum mechanics, including the quantization of angular momentum and the conditions for radiation emission. There are indications of confusion regarding the definitions and implications of stationary states and ground states.

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Homework Statement


Where does a electron emit or absorb radiation?


Homework Equations


L=mvr=nh (h is diracs constant)
(lamda)=(lamda)'(n1^2/n1^2-n2^2)
hf = En1 - En2


The Attempt at a Solution


I know that in a stationary state an electron cannot emit EM waves, but that if it shifts down the difference between the two goes into energy for EM waves. So does this happen for upward shifts, like if you were at n=1 and went to the first excitation level n=2 for hydrogen would that work as well? Also what excactly is a stationary state is it the level like n=2,3,4 and so on, which is what I assume. Furthermore at the ground state n=1 is any light emitted I would think not because n1=n2 and (lamda) = (lamda)'(n1^2/n1^2-n2^2) you would get a division by zero and the equation would fail which would not permit any light. (Also (lamda)' is the wavelength limit in the equation given).
 
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An actually I guess I stated the energy diff going into hf wrong I guess it doesn't actually for EM waves I meant EM radiation because hf is the energy of the photon that is formed.
 
I think I understnad that a stationary state is a special state of motion so when it is viewed it always seens at the same L value I think because L is quantized in the abiove equation and (diracs constant) is locked to an integer value which can't be in bewteen so that would tell me that from everything I have said energy can only be emitted or absorbed when a shift occurs none can occur at ground I am assuming and none at the stationary states. But I really do need help, I am sorry I am I ramble and it is confusing.
 
Yes, it is confusing. What exactly is the problem you are trying to solve?
 
I am trying to figure out what a stationary level actually is I guess and also is ground stage the same as staionary since no EM radiation occurs there
 
More of a conceptual question I guess
 
There is only one stationary state of an atom, also known as the ground state. It is the lowest possible energy state of an atom. Any other state is unstable, an atom must be "excited" to enter such a state, and it will eventually go back to the ground state (unless there is an influx of energy); an atom emits energy when going from a higher energy state to a lower energy state, and absorbs energy otherwise.
 
Sweet thanks man you answered my question.
 

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