Where does electric field go to zero?

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Here is an example.we want to calculate value of x where Electric filed going to be zero.i want to use vector form of coulomb equation
Diagram of a horizontal line with a vertical axis: a 1 C charge at the origin and a -9 C charge 10 m to the right, with a distance x marked to the left of the origin and E = 0 labelled with a downward arrow.

So as we know
Vector form of Coulomb's law: E equals kQ divided by r squared, multiplied by the unit vector r-hat.

for 1c:
Equation E1C = K * 1 / x^2 * (-a-hat x), written as plain mathematical notation, giving the field from a 1 C charge in vector form.

for -9C:
Equation E_{-9C} = K * -9 / (x + 10)^2 times the unit vector a-hat x, giving the electric field from a -9 C charge at distance x + 10.

so as we do superposition we obtain
Equation: K * 1 / x^2 times (minus a-hat x) plus K * (-9) / (x + 10)^2 times a-hat x, equals 0.

So
Handwritten equation: K*1/x^2 (-ax-hat) = K*9/(x+10)^2 (ax-hat) => 1/x^2 = -9/(x+10)^2

In this problem x doesn't have any real number.what is my problem?

Any help appreciate
 
Why does your second equation have a -ax, but your third equation doesn't?
 
The electric field due to the two charges should be pointing in different directions at some position x to the left of the 1C charge. This condition is not met in the equation where you superimpose the fields.
 
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Dear Jilang
Jilang said:
Why does your second equation have a -ax, but your third equation doesn't?
Electric filed in equation 2 is in (-ax) direction but the third equation is in (+ax) direction it is because of charges positive or negative value.


CAF123 said:
The electric field due to the two charges should be pointing in different directions at some position x to the left of the 1C charge. This condition is not met in the equation where you superimpose the fields.
dear CAF123
as i check the book answer that use only coulomb scale form,EF pointing and where electric filed going to be zero is in near 1c charge but outside of two charges distribution.
Handwritten equation chain: E1 = E-9 gives K|1|/x^2 = K|-9|/(x+10)^2, simplifying to 1/x^2 = 9/(x+10)^2, then 1/x = 3/(x+10), so x = 5.

but i want to use vector form of coulomb equation.
 
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baby_1 said:
dear CAF123
as i check the book answer that use only coulomb scale form,EF pointing and where electric filed going to be zero is in near 1c charge but outside of two charges distribution.
Handwritten derivation: E1 = E-9 implies K|1|/x^2 = K|-9|/(x+10)^2, simplifying to 1/x^2 = 9/(x+10)^2, then 1/x = 3/(x+10), giving x = 5.

but i want to use vector form of coulomb equation.
In your coordinate system, the E field from the 1C charge at a distance x defined in the sketch is ##E_{1C} = - kq_1/x^2 \underline{e}_x ##. That of the -9C charge is ##E_{-9C} = kq_2/(10+x)^2 \underline{e}_x##. ##q_1, q_2## here are the magnitudes of the charges and their differing sign is manifest in the reversal of the unit vector.
 
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Dear CAF123
Thanks for your response
however i don't agree with your explanation it is because of charges act.for example we know that the electric filed line of a dot positive charge is :
Diagram of a radial electric field: a purple circle with a plus sign at its center, with arrows pointing outward in eight directions from it.

and EF equation is :
Equation for electric field of a point charge: E vector equals Q divided by (4 pi epsilon zero times r squared), times the unit vector r-hat.

but if we put a dot negative charge that EF line is same as here
Radial field lines converging inward with arrows pointing toward a glowing red sphere at the center, representing a negative point charge.

we can only change the sign of charge and have a correct form.
Equation for the electric field of a point charge: vector E equals negative Q divided by 4 pi epsilon r squared, times the unit radial vector r-hat.


now why the vector form of coulomb equation doesn't work here?
 
baby_1 said:
we can only change the sign of charge and have a correct form.
Equation for the electric field of a point charge: E vector equals negative Q over 4 pi epsilon-zero r squared, times the unit radial vector r-hat.

now why the vector form of coulomb equation doesn't work here?

That is the same as $$\vec E = \frac{Q}{4 \pi \epsilon_o r^2} (- \hat r) = -\frac{Q}{4 \pi \epsilon_o r^2} \hat r$$ If you look at the picture, the electric field due to a point charge is spherically symmetric and the radial vector is defined to be positive radially outwards (spherical coordinates convention). In the case of a negative charge, the field lines move in the radially inwards direction, which is exactly what ##-\hat r## in the above equation is telling you.
 
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Hi Baby_1 , your post #6 is correct. But the r vectors both go the same way, pointing to the left of both charges in the negative x direction.
 
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Thanks dear CAF123 & jilang for your response.
I found my problem.i wrote wrong the distance vector.here is an Electromagnetic book that explain better
Printed textbook page showing Coulomb's law in vector form: F12 = Q1Q2 a_R12 / (4 pi eps0 R^2), equation 4.4, with R12 = r2 - r1, R = |R12|, a_R12 = R12/R, and equations 4.6a and 4.6b rewriting the force using R12 and r2 - r1 cubed in the denominator.

here is the correct answer :
Typeset equation for an electric field E at a point, showing k*(-9)/(x+10)^2 times (-xax - 10ax)/(x+10), simplified to k*9/(x+10)^2 times (x+10)ax/(x+10), then k*9/(x+10)^2 ax.
 
Is that the correct answer or correct equation?

Try this:

You know the electric field is 0 at some point.

This means that ##\sum E_{q} = ?##

Expand the sum and you have an equality to work with that's fairly easy to solve, and you're "using" the vector form of columbs law. Really, in this situation, the vectors are only useful for telling you the direction of the contribution to the field at a point by the respective point charge.
 
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also I think you meant ##K\frac{9}{(x+10)^2}a\hat{x}##