Where does the first minimum appear in a double slit experiment with neutrons?

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The discussion revolves around a double slit experiment involving neutrons, specifically focusing on calculating the neutron wavelength and determining the location of the first minimum in the diffraction pattern. The problem is situated within the context of quantum mechanics and wave-particle duality.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the neutron's wavelength using the de Broglie relation and the momentum derived from the given speed. There is uncertainty regarding the accuracy of the wavelength calculation and the implications for the position of the first minimum. Questions arise about the validity of the given speed of the neutrons and its impact on the results.

Discussion Status

Several participants are re-evaluating calculations and questioning assumptions about the parameters provided, such as the speed of the neutrons. There is a recognition of potential discrepancies in the mass used and the implications for the existence of a minimum in the diffraction pattern. The discussion remains open with no clear consensus on the outcome.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of information regarding the distance to the detector, which complicates the ability to provide a definitive answer about the location of the first minimum. There is also mention of the TA's confirmation of the neutron speed, which adds to the complexity of the discussion.

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Homework Statement



In a double slit experiment, a beam of neutrons with speed 0.6m/s is diffracted by two apertures which are 0.05μm apart.

a. What is the neutron wavelength?
b. Where does the first minimum appear?

Homework Equations



[tex]\lambda = \frac{h}{p}[/tex]

[tex]dsin\theta =(m+\frac{1}{2})\lambda[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



First off for the wavelength.

[tex]\lambda = \frac{h}{p}[/tex]

I had to calculate p first. Which is just mv -> (1.657x10-27)(0.6) = 9.942x-28

Plugging that into the de Broglie wavelength formula...

[tex]\lambda = \frac{h}{p} = \frac{6.63\times10^{-34}}{1.005\times10^{-27}} = 6.6\times10^{-7}[/tex]

That answers part a.

Now part b I am stuck on. First I don't know how far away the detector is, so I can't really give a definite location. So I was just going to go with the angle.

Using [tex]dsin\theta =(m+\frac{1}{2})\lambda[/tex] with m= 0

I get...

[tex]sin^{-1}\left[\frac{1}{2}\times\frac{6.6\times10^{-7}}{0.05\times10^{-6}}\right] = sin^{-1}(sin{\theta})[/tex]

Before taking the arcsin I have a value of 6.597. Which obvisouly gives me a weird answer for theta. Weird answer being 1.571° and -2.574°.

Any ideas where I am going wrong?
 
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I think your wavelength is off by a factor of 1000.

Well, maybe not. Let me recheck my calculations.
 
I hope it is. That would give me a better answer. I rechecked and I had p wrong in the post, which I've corrected, but in my wavelength calculation I had it right. So lamda is correct...at least for me.
 
Your answer is correct. My mass was off by a factor of 1000. So the equation is telling you there is no minimum.

I'm wondering, though, if your velocity is correct; 0.6 m/s is pretty slow. Are you sure it's not supposed to be v/c=0.6, where c is the speed of light? Of course, if that's the case, the wavelength comes out incredibly small.
 
vela said:
Your answer is correct. My mass was off by a factor of 1000. So the equation is telling you there is no minimum.

I'm wondering, though, if your velocity is correct; 0.6 m/s is pretty slow. Are you sure it's not supposed to be v/c=0.6, where c is the speed of light? Of course, if that's the case, the wavelength comes out incredibly small.

That's what I thought as well so I emailed the TA. He said it was right.

But like you said, maybe there is no minimum. Since without knowing the distance to the detector I can't really give an answer, only the angle.
 
Although...it's a fairly popular method of using neutrons and double slit experiments. At least from google. So if there is no minimum, I wonder what kind of info can be gained from this type of experiment.
 
Probably not much, other than to place a lower bound on the distance between the scattering centers.
 
Perfect. Thanks for the help. Good to know I didn't mess it up. :)
 

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