Where is it appropriate to place absolute value bars while solving this diffeq

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The discussion focuses on the placement of absolute value bars in the context of solving the differential equation dy/dx = y/x. The solution involves integrating to obtain ln|y| = ln|x| + c, followed by exponentiation. It is established that absolute values can be removed by considering four cases based on the signs of x and y, ultimately leading to two simplified equations. The constant A, derived from e^c, is always positive, allowing for the removal of absolute values under certain conditions.

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Homework Statement



just a simple problem as an example

dy/dx = y/x

dy/y = dx/x



Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



dy/y = dx/x

ln|y| = ln|x| + c

then when I take exponents do I still have to include the absolute value bar

|y| = |x|c
 
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vande060 said:

Homework Statement



just a simple problem as an example

dy/dx = y/x

dy/y = dx/x



Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



dy/y = dx/x

ln|y| = ln|x| + c
When you exponentiate each side, you get
e^{ln|x|} = e^{ln|y| + c} = e^{ln|y|}\cdot e^c = Ae^{ln|y|}

where A = ec

You can remove the absolute value signs by investigating four cases:
1) x > 0 and y > 0
2) x > 0 and y < 0
3) x < 0 and y > 0
4) x < 0 and y < 0

If x > 0, |x| = x
If x < 0, |x| = -x

The four cases above will probably reduce to two equations. A is always positive, so you don't have to worry about it.
vande060 said:
then when I take exponents do I still have to include the absolute value bar

|y| = |x|c
 

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