Where is the image formed when a lens is placed next to an aquarium?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the optics of a plano-convex lens placed next to an aquarium containing water. Participants are exploring the formation of images by the lens, considering factors such as the refractive indices of water and the lens material, as well as the position of the object relative to the lens.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the impact of the aquarium wall on light rays and the refraction occurring at different interfaces. There are attempts to derive equations for image position and characteristics based on object distance. Questions arise regarding the behavior of rays in different media and the implications for image formation when the lens is submerged in water.

Discussion Status

Some participants have made progress in deriving equations for image distance and characteristics for certain scenarios. However, there is ongoing uncertainty about the effects of placing the lens in water and how to approach the calculations for that case. Guidance has been offered regarding the angles of rays in different media, but no consensus has been reached on the complete solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants note constraints related to the information provided in their textbooks, particularly regarding the lensmaker's equation and its applicability to the scenario of a lens in water versus air. There is also mention of homework rules that may limit the types of solutions discussed.

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Homework Statement


There is a small shiny object in a big aquarium, which is formed like a cuboid and filled with water. The plan site of a plano-convex lens with a focal length f is put on the wall of the aquarium from outside. The object is located on the optical axis of the lens.
The refraction index of water is 1.33, the index of the lens is 1.50. The wall of the aquarium and the less are very thin. Consider only rays which are located nearly to the optical axis.
a) Determine the position of the image of the object as function of the position of the object. Name in each case, whether it is a virtual or a real, an upright or a turned, an enlarged or shrinked image.
b) Calculate the image distance and the enlargemet if the object distance has a value of 2.5*f.
c)Do the sam as in b) BUT now the lens is put on the wall from inside (again with plan side).

Homework Equations


n1*sin(a)=n2*sin(b)

The Attempt at a Solution


F[/B]irst of all, we imagine that th wall does not exist.
My idea was to consider an object as point (-xo , yo). Now we have to look at the ray which is parallel to the axis: It will refracted at the crossing between air and lens and it will cross the optical lens at the point (f , 0). We can describe this ray after refraction with the function f(x)=yo-yo/f*x.
Moreover we have to consider the ray which crosses the lens in the point (0 , 0).
I failed at determining the function g(x) which is the ray after being refracted. The intersection point of f(x) and g(x) should be the image, right?
 
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It looks like you are on the right track to solving this.

For the ray going through the point (0,0), you can calculate the angle of that ray (1) in the water, and then (2) in the glass. And from the angle in the glass, you should be able to (3) calculate the angle of the ray in air.
 
Using sin a=tan a, I got xi= -f*xo/(f*nwater-xo). With this equation I could solve the tasks a) and b). However I was not able to solve c) because in a) we can say that the parallel ray crosses the axis in (f,0) but now this can not be said. I think the function g(x) has the same equation because the perpendicular is always the optical axis.
How can I solve c)?
 
franceboy said:
However I was not able to solve c) because in a) we can say that the parallel ray crosses the axis in (f,0) but now this can not be said. I think the function g(x) has the same equation because the perpendicular is always the optical axis.
How can I solve c)?
Are you able to figure out the new focal length of the lens when it is in the water? That is, how does placing the lens in water affect the focal length compared to when it is in air?

If your class has covered this aspect of lenses, that could be a good place to start.

If you class has not covered this, see if your textbook does.

p.s. You're correct about g(x). A thin lens does not appreciably affect the path of a ray going through its center.
 
My textbook covers only the lensmaker equation. With this equation I can calculate R1. But it does not tell us how to deal with the case of a lens between water and air.
Is my solution for a) right?
 
Is there anyone who can help me?
 

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