Where Should a Third Charge Be Placed for Zero Net Force?

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The problem involves three charges positioned along the x-axis, with the goal of determining where a third positive charge should be placed to achieve zero net force. The charges include a positive charge at x = 1.00 m and a negative charge at the origin.

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the forces acting on the third charge, with one participant attempting to derive the position mathematically. There are questions about the correctness of the mathematical expressions used and the handling of signs related to the charges.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the mathematical setup and addressing potential errors in the expressions. There is a focus on clarifying the direction of forces based on charge signs, and some participants reference a book answer while exploring the implications of their calculations.

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Participants note the absence of a solutions guide and express a need for conceptual clarification on the problem setup and force interactions.

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1. Homework Statement
Three charges lie along the x -axis. The positive charge q1 = 10.0 microC is at x = 1.00 m, and the negative charge q2 = -2.00 microC is at the origin. Where must a positive charge q3 be placed on the x-axis so that the resultant force on it is zero?

Answer: x = - 0.809 m

2. Homework Equations
Columb's Law
F= k q1 q2
- - - - - -
r^2

k = 8.9875 x 10^9

3. The Attempt at a Solution

Force of 1 acting on 3 = - k q1 q3 / (1 - x)^2
Force of 2 acting on 3 = k q2 q3 / x^2

k q2 q3 / x^2 - k q1 q3 / (1 - x)^2 = 0

k's and q3's cancel out and I get

q2(1 - x)^2 = q1(x^2)
-2(1 - 2x + x^2) = 10x^2
-2 + 4x - 2x^2 = 10x^2
12x^2 - 4x +2 = 0

x = .167 m

Needing a bit of help in setting this one up perhaps. No solutions guide is available. Can someone have a more conceptual explanation on how to solve this one?
 
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Thanks for showing your work -- makes this much easier.

This line has a math error in it: q2(1 - x^2) = q1(x^2)

The term on the left should be quantity squared (you pulled the squared inside the parens. So re-write as:

[tex]q_2 (1-x)^2 = q_1 x^2[/tex]
 
oh, that's just a typing error, it doesn't change the answer from what I had originally.

Fixed and thanks.
 
Okay, then I think the issue that is left is that you double-did the negative sign for the negative charge:

Force of 1 acting on 3 = - k q1 q3 / (1 - x)^2
Force of 2 acting on 3 = k q2 q3 / x^2

You should let the sign on the charges themselves dictate whether the force is in the + or - x direction.

BTW, the book answer of -0.809m works in the equation you got to this point:

q2(1 - x)^2 = q1(x^2)


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berkeman said:
Okay, then I think the issue that is left is that you double-did the negative sign for the negative charge:

Force of 1 acting on 3 = - k q1 q3 / (1 - x)^2
Force of 2 acting on 3 = k q2 q3 / x^2

You should let the sign on the charges themselves dictate whether the force is in the + or - x direction.

BTW, the book answer of -0.809m works in the equation you got to this point:

q2(1 - x)^2 = q1(x^2)


.
double-did the negative? That doesn't make sense. I thought you had to arbitrarily add the negative sign cause that's the direction the force will be in?
 

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