Where should I take my calculus and linear algebra online?

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The discussion centers around finding online, self-paced courses for credit in multivariable calculus and linear algebra. Participants share their experiences, concerns about course quality and accreditation, and the challenges of commuting to community colleges.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the quality and price of online courses for multivariable calculus and linear algebra, noting a wide range of costs.
  • Concerns are raised about the accreditation of certain online programs, such as calcampus, which is noted to be accredited only at the high school level.
  • One participant expresses a preference for investing in textbooks over online courses, suggesting that free resources like Khan Academy and YouTube could suffice for self-study.
  • Another participant mentions the University of North Dakota's courses and their ranking, while also considering the University of Illinois' NetMath program, which is described as self-paced.
  • Some participants discuss transportation issues that complicate attending in-person classes, suggesting remote options as a viable alternative.
  • There are mentions of the potential downsides of online learning, including the risk of procrastination and the need for self-discipline.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to take these courses. There are competing views on the value of online courses versus self-study using textbooks and free resources.

Contextual Notes

Participants express various limitations, including transportation issues and the necessity of taking courses for credit as prerequisites for graduate school. There are also discussions about the varying quality of online courses and the importance of accreditation.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals seeking online courses in multivariable calculus and linear algebra, particularly those with commuting challenges or looking for affordable options for credit. Students preparing for graduate school may also find the discussion relevant.

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Has anyone taken these two courses online in a self-paced course for credit? If so, where and how was it in terms of quality? How about price? Opinions/thoughts are much appreciated. I'm working and the closest community college is a commute away, so that's out. I'm finding $1100-3000~ for multivariable calc courses and $700-2000~ for linear alg., but it's extremely hard to judge between them. For instance, after looking more closely, it appears that calcampus which offers both is only accredited at the high school level? I'm just trying to look up the rankings of the actual college they're attached to.

University of North Dakota has a 1300 calc III and 700 "intro to linear alg." 2 credit course, but it's ranked in the 200s. The University of Illinois netmath is perhaps too expensive. I'm looking to spend up to 1300 on mv calc, and 1000 on linear alg.
 
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cobalt2019 said:
I'm working and the closest community college is a commute away, so that's out. I'm finding $1100-3000~ for multivariable calc courses and $700-2000~ for linear alg., but it's extremely hard to judge between them. For instance, after looking more closely, it appears that calcampus which offers both is only accredited at the high school level?
If the community college is a commute away, then the commute is not stopping you.

Multivariable Calculus and Linear Algebra are more advanced than high school level. They are college or university level.
 
cobalt2019 said:
Has anyone taken these two courses online in a self-paced course for credit? If so, where and how was it in terms of quality? How about price? Opinions/thoughts are much appreciated. I'm working and the closest community college is a commute away, so that's out. I'm finding $1100-3000~ for multivariable calc courses and $700-2000~ for linear alg., but it's extremely hard to judge between them. For instance, after looking more closely, it appears that calcampus which offers both is only accredited at the high school level? I'm just trying to look up the rankings of the actual college they're attached to.

University of North Dakota has a 1300 calc III and 700 "intro to linear alg." 2 credit course, but it's ranked in the 200s. The University of Illinois netmath is perhaps too expensive. I'm looking to spend up to 1300 on mv calc, and 1000 on linear alg.
I would rather spend this money for good textbooks than any online course!

Khan academy, youtube channels already provide online courses for free. In the end you will need books anyway. Studying is also a matter of time. You cannot read textbooks as you read novels. It takes a lot of pen and paper work in parallel, time to do the exercises and so on.

https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/self-teaching-gcse-and-a-level-maths.933639/#post-5896947
I would change the book recommendations, as OpenStax is good to find out where you are, but not so good on the subjects themselves. Beside those links in the link above, you can look or ask in our science textbook forum for good books which fit your needs, given that you are willing to describe where you are and where you want to go in your self-study.
 
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cobalt2019 said:
I'm working and the closest community college is a commute away, so that's out.
Look into online courses offered by community colleges.
 
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vela said:
Look into online courses offered by community colleges.
Yeah, it seems like an option these days is to take a class remotely, and only have to actually go there for exams and labs. Does that seem like an option?

EDIT / ADD -- Here is one example of a university with accredited online learning degrees in fields like EE:

https://und.edu/academics/online/index.html
 
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fresh_42 said:
I would rather spend this money for good textbooks than any online course!

Khan academy, youtube channels already provide online courses for free. In the end you will need books anyway. Studying is also a matter of time. You cannot read textbooks as you read novels. It takes a lot of pen and paper work in parallel, time to do the exercises and so on.

I would change the book recommendations, as OpenStax is good to find out where you are, but not so good on the subjects themselves. Beside those links in the link above, you can look or ask in our science textbook forum for good books which fit your needs, given that you are willing to describe where you are and where you want to go in your self-study.

Thanks for the recs! Unfortunately, I need to take these classes for credit as a prereq to grad school. I've already passed MV calc a while ago, but just barely so I need to retake it.
 
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symbolipoint said:
If the community college is a commute away, then the commute is not stopping you.

Multivariable Calculus and Linear Algebra are more advanced than high school level. They are college or university level.
It is for various reasons mainly no car and unreliable transportation. I know, I'm just using that as an example of trying to find a reliable place to take these two classes for credit. I've already passed mv calc, but barely so I need to retake it to show a better grade in anticipation of apply for grad school.
 
berkeman said:
Yeah, it seems like an option these days is to take a class remotely, and only have to actually go there for exams and labs. Does that seem like an option?

EDIT / ADD -- Here is one example of a university with accredited online learning degrees in fields like EE:

https://und.edu/academics/online/index.html

Yes, as I said above, I've already looked at it.

"University of North Dakota has a 1300 calc III and 700 "intro to linear alg." 2 credit course, but it's ranked in the 200s. The University of Illinois netmath is perhaps too expensive. I'm looking to spend up to 1300 on mv calc, and 1000 on linear alg."
 
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cobalt2019 said:
It is for various reasons mainly no car and unreliable transportation. I know, I'm just using that as an example of trying to find a reliable place to take these two classes for credit. I've already passed mv calc, but barely so I need to retake it to show a better grade in anticipation of apply for grad school.
Interesting transportation restrictions. In case you could make it practical and the distance not too excessive, a possible choice could be bicycle. Not ideal, because of weather changes or in case excessive distance or traffic conditions.
 
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symbolipoint said:
Interesting transportation restrictions. In case you could make it practical and the distance not too excessive, a possible choice could be bicycle. Not ideal, because of weather changes or in case excessive distance or traffic conditions.
My biking skills aren't great, never biked in traffic before. Maybe in a place with better biking infrastructure, but not here. It's not a big deal to get a ride for a proctored exam or two, but meeting for a brick and mortar class would be an issue.
 
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Consider NetMath is a program within UIUC. The course itself is within your budget and its self-pace. From the registration date, you will have three months to complete it. You make your own schedule which means you submit your homework at any time and take the exam whenever you are ready. I'm currently taking Differential equations now and I really love it. The only downside is that you can only take one math course at the same time. Registration is all year.

Good Luck
 
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if you do not need a certificate, use youtube and other websites. free resources are abundant and with no less quality than paid ones. follow fresh's advice and get textbooks with the money instead.
also, online & self paced learning can call in some levels of laziness, keep that in mind.
 

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