Which expression for Relativistic Kinetic Energy is correct?

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I saw that the Relativistic Kinetic Energy calculation for these two sources, seems to be different :

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/rocket.html
see : Conservation of Energy
EK = gamma*m*c^2

While here :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_energy
see : Relativistic kinetic energy of rigid bodies
EK = gamma*m*c^2 - m*c^2

Which one is right ? Or did I misunderstand something ?
 
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I haven't read the first link, but from what I know I'd say that the second definition is the right one. [itex]E = \gamma mc^{2}[/itex] is the total energy, not the kinetic energy. You can Taylor expand the first expression [itex]E = \gamma mc^{2} - mc^{2}[/itex] with respect to the variable v/c. The first term in the expression, [itex]\frac{1}{2}mv^{2}[/itex] represents the Newtonian kinetic energy, which will be the dominant term if v/c is small.
 
Where does the first link say that? All I can see under "conservation of energy" is:

E_final = γmc^2 + E_L

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rhz_prog said:
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/rocket.html
see : Conservation of Energy
EK = gamma*m*c^2

That page does not refer to [itex]\gamma m c^2[/itex] as kinetic energy, but rather, simply as "energy". In fact, the word "kinetic" does not appear on that page at all!
 
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rhz_prog said:
I saw that the Relativistic Kinetic Energy calculation for these two sources, seems to be different :

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/rocket.html
see : Conservation of Energy
EK = gamma*m*c^2

While here :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_energy
see : Relativistic kinetic energy of rigid bodies
EK = gamma*m*c^2 - m*c^2

Which one is right ? Or did I misunderstand something ?

Your expressions are better written as:

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/rocket.html
see : Conservation of Energy
TE = gamma*m*c^2

While here :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_energy
see : Relativistic kinetic energy of rigid bodies
KE = gamma*m*c^2 - m*c^2

where TE is Total Energy and KE is Kinetic Energy.
The second expression can also be written as:

KE = TE - RE

where RE is Rest Energy or rest mass energy.

Total Energy can can also be found from this relationship:

[itex]TE = \sqrt{(gamma*m*v*c)^2+(m*c^2)^2} = \sqrt{(pc)^2+(mc^2)^2}[/itex]

which can be written as:

[itex]TE = \sqrt{ME^2+RE^2}[/itex]

where ME is Momentum Energy.

By rearranging this becomes :

[itex]RE = \sqrt{TE^2-ME^2}[/itex]

Since rest energy is usually an invariant, the quantity [itex]\sqrt{TE^2-ME^2}[/itex] is the same when switching from one reference frame to another. In fact, in a perfectly elastic collision, the quantity [itex]\sqrt{TE^2-ME^2}[/itex] is the same for a given particle before and after the collision.

Hope that helps.
 
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