Which Spring Oscillation Frequency is Correct?

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The discussion revolves around the oscillation frequency of a spring when subjected to different orientations: horizontally and vertically. The original poster presents a multiple-choice question regarding how the frequency changes when the same spring and mass are positioned vertically compared to horizontally.

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  • Participants explore the implications of changing the orientation of the spring on the frequency of oscillation, with some suggesting that the frequency remains unchanged while others consider the effects of gravitational force and elastic force.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between frequency and the forces acting on the spring. Some participants express confidence in their conclusions, while others seek further clarification on the implications of the forces involved.

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Participants are discussing the effects of gravitational force and elastic force on the oscillation frequency, with some noting that the equilibrium position changes when the spring is oriented vertically. There is a lack of consensus on the correctness of specific answer choices, indicating a need for further examination of the underlying principles.

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mass of the body=m

Horizontally, the spring is deflected from its equilibrium position and then released, oscillated with a frequency f. Then, the same spring and the same body are suspended vertically, as in figure.

Which one is correct?

A) The frequency of movement of the spring, when the body is suspended vertically, doubled.

B) The frequency of movement of the spring, when the body is suspended vertically, reduced to half.

C) The frequency of movement of the spring, when the body is suspended vertically, remains the same.

D) The frequency of movement of the spring, when the body is suspended vertically, is not related to the period of the movement, when the spring oscillates horizontally.

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I think is C) but I think that D) is also correct. Please help me
 

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Describe how you came to that conclusion.
 


I think is C) because the frequency is a characteristic of the oscillator.

I think that D) is also correct because we change the position of oscillator and in the second case there are 2 forces: grav force and elastic force, in the first case there is only elastic force.
 


It's true that when suspended vertically there are two forces to consider, but it still turns out that the frequency depends only on the ratio of k/m.

How does period relate to frequency?
 


f= 1/T

so is C) ?
 


JoanF said:
f= 1/T
Right.
so is C) ?
Yes, C is correct. D doesn't really make sense, since if the frequency is unchanged the period must also be unchanged.
 


so the in spite of in 2nd case there are 2 forces acting, that doesn't change anything, right?
 


JoanF said:
so the in spite of in 2nd case there are 2 forces acting, that doesn't change anything, right?
What changes is the length of the spring when the system is at its equilibrium point. In the horizontal case, the equilibrium position is when the spring is unstretched; but when vertical, the spring is stretched at equilibrium (by an amount = mg/k).

But that doesn't affect the choice of answer.
 


oh ok, now I understand

many thanks, really!
 

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