Which Thermodynamics Book Offers the Most Comprehensive Coverage?

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The discussion revolves around recommendations for thermodynamics books that provide comprehensive coverage. Participants express their experiences with various texts and seek clarity on the distinctions between thermodynamics, thermal physics, and statistical mechanics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant critiques Shroeder's "Intro to Thermal Physics" for being non-rigorous and lacking detail, seeking better alternatives.
  • Several participants recommend Kittel and Kroemer's "Thermal Physics" and Reif's "Fundamentals of Statistical and Thermal Physics" as solid options.
  • Another participant notes that Kittel and Kroemer's text appears outdated in terms of notation compared to Reif's work.
  • A suggestion is made for Landau and Lifshitz's "Statistical Physics Part 1," though it is acknowledged that this moves into graduate-level material.
  • One participant asks for clarification on whether the request is for a thermodynamics book, a thermal physics book, or a statistical mechanics book, highlighting the subtle differences among them.
  • Another participant expresses uncertainty about what constitutes "new notations," suggesting that standard notations have remained consistent over time.
  • Adkins' "Equilibrium Thermodynamics" and Kestin's "A Course in Thermodynamics" are recommended, along with Zemansky's "Heat and Thermodynamics," though the latter is noted to be less modern.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the suitability and modernity of various thermodynamics texts, with no clear consensus on a single best option. Disagreements exist regarding the perceived outdatedness of certain texts and the definitions of thermodynamics versus thermal physics versus statistical mechanics.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the importance of notation and the level of detail in the texts, indicating that preferences may depend on individual learning styles and backgrounds. The discussion highlights the lack of consensus on what constitutes a comprehensive thermodynamics book.

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I have used Shroeder's Intro to Thermal Physics but found it a bit non rigorous and uncomplete. It tries to cover every aspect of thermal physics in a non detail fashion. Does anyone know of any good thermodynamics book that covers the thermodymaics very completely and clearly?
 
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My suggestions would be either Kittel and Kroemer's Thermal Physics or Reif's Fundamentals of Statistical and Thermal Physics.
 
I second these recommendations.
 
las3rjock said:
My suggestions would be either Kittel and Kroemer's Thermal Physics or Reif's Fundamentals of Statistical and Thermal Physics.

The former looks a bit old with notations that seem too old and students these days not used to them.
 
Kittel/Kroemer looks old-fashioned compared to Reif?! :bugeye: My next suggestion would be Landau and Lifsh*tz's Statistical Physics part 1, but we're rapidly moving out of undergraduate territory and firmly into graduate territory.

Also, can you specify whether you want a thermodynamics book, a thermal physics book, or a statistical mechanics book? I know they sound like they're all the same thing, but there are subtle differences. My first two suggestions were for thermal physics, but I have some different suggestions if you're looking for thermodynamics.
 
las3rjock said:
Kittel/Kroemer looks old-fashioned compared to Reif?! :bugeye: My next suggestion would be Landau and Lifsh*tz's Statistical Physics part 1, but we're rapidly moving out of undergraduate territory and firmly into graduate territory.

Also, can you specify whether you want a thermodynamics book, a thermal physics book, or a statistical mechanics book? I know they sound like they're all the same thing, but there are subtle differences. My first two suggestions were for thermal physics, but I have some different suggestions if you're looking for thermodynamics.

Now having seen Reif, they both seem old fashioned. I am looking for an indepth thermodynamics book with newish notations.
 
Hmm, I'm not sure what new notations are. The notations used in the books, as well as in current papers on, e.g., non-equilibrium statistical mechanics, are pretty much unchanged from the days of Boltzmann and Gibbs.
 
For thermodynamics, I would recommend Adkins' Equilibrium Thermodynamics. Another book that has been mentioned in a different thread in this forum is Kestin's A Course in Thermodynamics. The classic introductory text is Zemansky's Heat and Thermodynamics, but it's probably not as modern as you would like.
 

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