Recommendation for rigorous intro books to mechanics and E&M

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The discussion revolves around recommendations for rigorous introductory textbooks in mechanics and electromagnetism (E&M) suitable for a college sophomore currently studying these subjects alongside multivariable calculus and differential equations. Participants share their opinions on various textbooks and their appropriateness for a student seeking a challenge.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses dissatisfaction with "University Physics by Young," finding it too wordy and not rigorous enough, and seeks recommendations for more challenging texts.
  • Several participants recommend "Intro to Electrodynamics by Griffiths" and "E&M by Purcell and Morin" for E&M, noting Griffiths' clarity in explaining concepts.
  • For mechanics, participants suggest "Intro to Mechanics by Morin," "Classical Mechanics by Taylor," and "Intro to Mechanics by Klepnner and Kolenkow," with some noting the difficulty of problems in Klepnner's book.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of having a solid understanding of vector calculus and suggests familiarity with partial differential equations (PDEs) for studying Griffiths' book.
  • Another participant questions whether PDEs are necessary for beginners or if they can be learned concurrently with Griffiths' text.
  • Some participants suggest borrowing books to assess their suitability before committing to them, indicating that all recommended texts are generally good choices.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the quality of the recommended textbooks but express differing opinions on the appropriateness of certain books based on the student's current level of understanding and the necessity of prior knowledge in vector calculus and PDEs. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best fit for the student's needs.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention varying levels of familiarity with the recommended texts and the challenges posed by their problems, indicating that individual experiences may influence their recommendations. There is also uncertainty about the necessity of prior knowledge in PDEs for beginners.

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Hey guys I'm a sophomore in college currently taking physics 2(intro E&M), Multivariable calculus, and Differential Equations. I was hoping some of you guys could recommend some good books for intro mechanics and E&M. I'm currently using University Physics by Young in my E&M class, and I used that book for my last semester physics 1 class also; this book is too wordy, not rigorous enough, and a bit too easy in my opinion. Also it is ginormous.

I've looked around and found that the two best intro E&M books are probably Intro to "Electrodynamics by Griffiths" and "E&M by Purcell and Morin". For mechanics I've read that "Intro to Mechanics by Morin" , "Classical Mechanics by Taylor", and "Intro to Mechanics by Klepnner and Kolenkow" are all great books. I read about a lot of other physics books as well, but most seemed to be at the same level of rigor as Young's book.

Which do you guys believe is suitable for an eager student who is up for a challenge? Also, do you guys believe that the two E&M books I mentioned are appropriate to learn from while taking Multivariable calculus concurrently?
 
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I would recommend Griffith only if in your course in multivariable calculus have vector calculus in it, because Classic E.M is simply vectorial calculus and i REALLY recommend you to learn something about PDEs too..
 
Andreol263 said:
I would recommend Griffith only if in your course in multivariable calculus have vector calculus in it, because Classic E.M is simply vectorial calculus and i REALLY recommend you to learn something about PDEs too..
Yes my calculus course has been formalizing everything in terms of vectors. Are the PDEs something that you believe a beginning student can learn while working through the book or something they must have had prior to starting?
 
I would strongly recommend Griffiths for EM theory. He clearly explains the concepts, you just can't get bored.. For mechanics Kleppner is quite good. The problems in this book are generally quite hard, but it'll gradually raise your level too.. Both of these books require a rigorous understanding of calculus. Why don't you see if you could borrow these books from somewhere for a week or two and then assess them, that's what I usually do.
 
Aniruddha@94 said:
I would strongly recommend Griffiths for EM theory. He clearly explains the concepts, you just can't get bored.. For mechanics Kleppner is quite good. The problems in this book are generally quite hard, but it'll gradually raise your level too.. Both of these books require a rigorous understanding of calculus. Why don't you see if you could borrow these books from somewhere for a week or two and then assess them, that's what I usually do.
my understanding of single variable calculUs is pretty solid. I'm just starting to learn multivariable/vector calculUs, though it's not that much of a step up from single variable. So do you not recommend the books by Morin and Taylor, or do you feel that they're too advanced for my level?
 
I haven't gone through Morin page by page. I've only looked at the problems in the book, some of which were quite hard( back then I thought it would be too much for me to cope with). About Taylor, I have no idea. I've never read it... Again I suggest that you borrow these books from a library, go through them and see which one suits to your level.. All these books are pretty good, so you won't make a mistake getting anyone of them.
 

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