Whittaker's solution and separable variables

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around Whittaker's solution to the 3D Laplace equation and the use of complex coordinates to derive solutions. Participants explore the relationship between different forms of the solution, including integrals and functions, and express uncertainty about how to demonstrate their equivalence.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the extension of the 2D solution of the Laplace equation to 3D using complex coordinates and expresses uncertainty about demonstrating the equivalence of different forms of the solution.
  • Another participant suggests that Whittaker's solutions can be expressed in integral form and provides a specific function that leads to the known solution of the Laplace equation.
  • Some participants discuss the need to find functions g(w) and h(w) and mention the potential relevance of twistor theory and Laurent expansions in their exploration.
  • One participant requests assistance with solving the integral related to the proposed function, indicating difficulty in the process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express similar ideas regarding the integral forms of Whittaker's solution, but there is no consensus on how to demonstrate the equivalence or solve the integral effectively. Multiple approaches and uncertainties remain present in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various mathematical techniques and theories, such as Taylor expansions and Laurent expansions, but do not resolve the steps or assumptions necessary for a complete understanding of the equivalence of the solutions.

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So It is well known that the 2D solution to the Laplace equation can be obtained by changing to complex coordinates ##u=x+iy## and ##v=x-iy##. This can be extended to n dimensions as long as the complex coordinates chosen also solve the Laplace equation. For example in 3D

##w=i\sqrt{2}z+xcos\vartheta +iysin(\vartheta)##

along with the complex conjugate of w. This allows the 3D laplace equation to be solved in the same way as the 2D case. I.e the solution of
##\nabla^{2}f=0## can be found through

##f=g(w)+h(\tilde{w})##

A general solution to the Laplace equation is given by

##f=\int f(w,\vartheta)d\vartheta##

this is called Whittaker's solution and from this we can obtain

##f=\frac{2\pi x}{(x^{2}+y^{2}+z^{2})^{3/2}}##

which is a solution to the Laplace equation...Ok so my question is I am unsure how to show that they are equivalent?

Whittaker's solution must be able to be expressed as

##f=\int f(w,\vartheta)d\vartheta=g(w)+h(\tilde{w})=\frac{2\pi x}{(x^{2}+y^{2}+z^{2})^{3/2}}##

I am sure there is a simple explanation? probably involving a taylor expansion or something? but I am not sure how to get there...I believe these all have some context and relation to twistor theory and the like but before i delve cohmology etc I am hoping for an easier solution =]
Matt
 
As far as I could figure out by reading some old old document Whittaker shewed that solutions to the 3d laplace equation can be put on the form ## \int_{0}^{2\pi} f(x + iy\cos(v) + iz\sin(v)) dv ##. By pure guessing I found that

## \int_{0}^{2\pi} f(x,y,z,v) dv = \frac{2\pi x }{\left(x^2 + y^2 + z^2\right)^{3/2}}## with ## f(x,y,z,v) = \left(x + iz\cos(v) + iy\sin(v)\right)^{-2}##. Now you just have to find g(w) and h(w), right?
 
Strum said:
As far as I could figure out by reading some old old document Whittaker shewed that solutions to the 3d laplace equation can be put on the form ## \int_{0}^{2\pi} f(x + iy\cos(v) + iz\sin(v)) dv ##. By pure guessing I found that

## \int_{0}^{2\pi} f(x,y,z,v) dv = \frac{2\pi x }{\left(x^2 + y^2 + z^2\right)^{3/2}}## with ## f(x,y,z,v) = \left(x + iz\cos(v) + iy\sin(v)\right)^{-2}##. Now you just have to find g(w) and h(w), right?

Pretty much, but where the solution to the Laplace equation is the addition of some function ##g(w)## and ##h(\tilde{w})## where ##\tilde{w}## is the complex conjugate of ##w##...
The more I'm reading about it, it seems as if I need to look at twistor theory, global and local solutions etc...I wonder if take a laurent expansion would help, but I haven't really been able to get very far
 
Strum said:
As far as I could figure out by reading some old old document Whittaker shewed that solutions to the 3d laplace equation can be put on the form ## \int_{0}^{2\pi} f(x + iy\cos(v) + iz\sin(v)) dv ##. By pure guessing I found that

## \int_{0}^{2\pi} f(x,y,z,v) dv = \frac{2\pi x }{\left(x^2 + y^2 + z^2\right)^{3/2}}## with ## f(x,y,z,v) = \left(x + iz\cos(v) + iy\sin(v)\right)^{-2}##. Now you just have to find g(w) and h(w), right?

Would you show me how you solved the integral? I appear to be having some trouble
 
Maple syntax.

f:=(x,y,z,v) -> (x + I*z*cos(v) + I*y*sin(v))^-2;
int(f(x,y,z,v),v=0..2*Pi) assuming(x,real,y,real,z,real,v,real)
 

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