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If you had to rank the most influential and skilled chemists of all-time and currently living, who would the be?
The discussion centers on ranking the greatest chemists of all time and currently living, highlighting the challenges due to the diverse sub-fields of chemistry. Linus Pauling is frequently mentioned as a top contender for the greatest chemist, while Robert H. Grubbs is noted as a recent Nobel laureate. The conversation critiques the use of citation metrics as a measure of influence, pointing out biases in the Science Watch list and the tendency for Nobel Prizes to be awarded to non-chemists. The complexities of defining "greatest" and "influential" in chemistry are emphasized, suggesting that sub-field specific rankings may provide more accurate representations.
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Ygggdrasil said:Just quickly looking through the list Sharpless, Smalley, Noyori, and Finn are all Nobelists in addition to Grubbs. Note that the Chemistry Nobel quite often goes to non-chemists and it's often given late into scientists careers (some Nobels are awarded after the scientist has retired), so it's not surprising that recent Nobelists were not highly cited in the 2000s. It's possible that the most Science Watch list may predict Nobel Prizes in the 2020s, though the top 10 is quite nanotech heavy and I'm not sure research in that area has really panned out to give any practical applications worthy of a Nobel prize yet. The list basically shows how imperfect citations are as a metric for measuring scientific influence.
kyphysics said:Hmm, why are Nobels in chemistry often given to NON-chem. people?
It is most common in chemistry, though it happens in other fields. For examples, two of the winners of the 2015 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine were chemists who helped discover/develop new drugs to combat malaria and roundworms.Is this common for other disciplines?
Yes, citations are probably a poor metric for deciding who are the "best" or most influential scientists.Also, what about reputation metrics? Surely, there are people who are considered the "best" without necessarily being the most cited, right?