Barack Obama :)
I think the concern is that they wouldn't bother coming out to the polls at all, because they weren't very strongly supportive of McCain either. They wouldn't vote for Obama, but they might not have voted for anyone. Bush certainly knew that mobilizing them to the polls can make or break a close campaign.She'll get the Evangelical vote, but a majority of them were voting McCain anyway.
Are you sure they are misquoting anyone? McCain has telling some unbelievable whoppers. And Obama is more truthful according to Gokul's fact checks.His ads are deliberately misquoting McCain and Palin or deliberately misinterpreting their statements. It's just plain ugly.
Yes, 15 is really low. I picked 15 in the original poll in response to some statements that the race was going to be really close, and because it looked like it might come down to how NV, NM and CO went.15 is a pretty low limit.
If only 269 Bush voters had voted for Gore in 2000, he would have won Florida by 1 vote and the electoral college by 49 electoral votes.
Do you recall which specific ads these were? Any key words come to mind? We could dig them up if you have some recollection of the general themes of the ads.His ads are deliberately misquoting McCain and Palin or deliberately misinterpreting their statements. It's just plain ugly.
Yeah, I am voting McCain, but suspect that Obama will win. Issues-wise McCain is much more mainstream than Obama, but Obama is much more charismatic than McCain. I think charisma beats issues, but would be delighted to be proven wrong.in fact, even if one is planning on voting for a certain candidate, it doesn't necessarily follow that they think the candidate will win!
There's one running in my area where Obama misuses a McCain quote. McCain says something like 'it's our fault' (clearly froma speech he made in Congress) and 'Obama says in the ad - yes, it is his fault.' Next time I hear it, I'll take more specific note of it.Are you sure they are misquoting anyone?
That site was a pretty small site from a pretty small newspaper so not a real good source. They only reviewed about a dozen quotes.And Obama is more truthful according to Gokul's fact checks.
That should rate a "pants on fire" on that site Gokul found. We'll see if they pick it up.In Daytona Beach, Obama said that "if my opponent had his way, the millions of Floridians who rely on it would've had their Social Security tied up in the stock market this week." He referred to "elderly women" at risk of poverty, and said families would be scrambling to support "grandmothers and grandfathers."
That's not true. The plan proposed by President Bush and supported by McCain in 2005 would not have allowed anyone born before 1950 to invest any part of their Social Security taxes in private accounts. All current retirees would be covered by the same benefits they are now.
Unfortunately McCain's lifelong love affair with deregulation and banking lobbyist money has come home to roost in the latest meltdown.Yeah, I am voting McCain, but suspect that Obama will win. Issues-wise McCain is much more mainstream than Obama, but Obama is much more charismatic than McCain. I think charisma beats issues, but would be delighted to be proven wrong.
Congressional Quarterly is a "pretty small newspaper"?That site was a pretty small site from a pretty small newspaper so not a real good source.
Despite its name, CQ was published quarterly for only one year. Demand drove more frequent updates, first weekly, then daily. CQ was also an early leader in delivering information on a real-time basis, starting with a dial-up service in 1984. Its Web site dominates the market for online legislative tracking information, and has been nominated for several awards. In recent years, CQ has launched several electronic-only newsletters with greater focus on particular areas, including CQ Homeland Security, CQ Budget Tracker, CQ HealthBeat, and CQ Green Sheets.
They have reviewed 119 quotes from McCain and 126 quotes from Obama. I think that's a little more than a dozen.russ said:They only reviewed about a dozen quotes.
https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=1873569&postcount=206Meanwhile, here's the score on lying by the two campaigns, according to Politifact.com.
Truthiness McCain Obama --------------------------------- True 22% 34% Mostly True 18% 21% Half True 17% 18% Barely True 19% 11% False 19% 16% Pants on Fire 05% 00%
Truthiness McCain Obama --------------------------------- True 21% 33% Mostly True 18% 20% Half True 16% 18% Barely True 20% 12% False 19% 16% Pants on Fire 05% 01%
It is listed on that site. Obama won himself a rating of "False" for that.russ said:One doozie that I had forgottenabout (and isn't listed on that site) is Obama's whopper from the end of March about McCain wanting a 100 year war.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,344988,00.htmlKELLY: So, OK, it goes on and on. What about Obama's refined position that McCain supports a 100 year troop presence in Iraq is inaccurate?
While that is true, Obama has a long way to go to make it into McCain's league. The factcheck.org "Whoppers of 2008" list catches the McCain campaign 23 times and the Obama campaign 12 times.russ said:The list of ads on the front page of factcheck implies a shift by Obama in the past week to be more on the attack and looser with the truth.
I agree, mostly. If McCain disappeared today, and Obama kept going, they would be about even by November.russ said:He also has a highly effective ad that he's been playing a lot that white washes the gender/income gap issue in the US. Simply put, it doesn't exist.